The enigma that is Kevin Pietersen

[sussexpob]

The newly elected chairman of the ECB has to come out and clarify exactly what he promised Kevin Pietersen if he wants his organisation,and more importantly himself, to regain any credibility. For a man of such an outspoken nature he's become very quiet of late.

Yes, that is certainly very strange.

At the time when Graves made those comments, no-one envisaged the ECB continuing to make personnel changes they did, least of all Andrew Strauss.

If anything, Graves has been undermined by the establishment before starting his new role.

But he wasn't in a position to make such comments when he did because he hadn't started his new role.

Doesn't really matter, his name was mentioned by Harrison yesterday in line with them unanimously feeling the position was unworkable.

Which still, regardless of his role or it not starting, leaves Graves having offered something that never was on the table.

The question is why did he do this if it was clear when he took up the role his opinion was he wouldn't be selected.

[Aidan11]

Not like Paul Newman to be Pro-KP these days


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/cricke ... ation.html

[westoelad]

Well the squad for the 1st test is announced tomorrow and someone will have to front up. The problem ain't going to go away.

[sussexpob]

Not like Paul Newman to be Pro-KP these days


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/cricke ... ation.html

Even the hacks are sick of defending the ECB balls ups maybe?

[sussexpob]

See Hayden has jumped into the debate, saying that only a crazy person would coach England....

[The Waugh Twins]

We've had a fair share of Aussies excluded from the team because they didn't fit the fun and banter in the dressing room. Maybe they told bad jokes, wouldn't have a beer or go to family barbeques, or whatever. Katich was one, they were desperate to get rid of Mark and my self for years. Michael Bevan, Dean Jones and a number of others have been handled in dodgy circumstances to say the least, and yet the likes of Warney could do no wrong. These guys should have never been treated like this

Symonds on the other hand refused to get a Northern Territory fishing licence, had to go. No fair enough he had an alcohol problem apparently, never saw it myself but I always trust the media.

I don't know Pietersen from a bar of soap, but he seems a little eccentric at times. Can't see how you can condemn someone from being a little odd.

[The Waugh Twins]

We've had a fair share of Aussies excluded from the team because they didn't fit the fun and banter in the dressing room. Maybe they told bad jokes, wouldn't have a beer or go to family barbeques, or whatever. Katich was one, they were desperate to get rid of Mark and my self for years. Michael Bevan, Dean Jones and a number of others have been handled in dodgy circumstances to say the least, and yet the likes of Warney could do no wrong. These guys should have never been treated like this

Symonds on the other hand refused to get a Northern Territory fishing licence, had to go. No fair enough he had an alcohol problem apparently, never saw it myself but I always trust the media.

I don't know Pietersen from a bar of soap, but he seems a little eccentric at times. Can't see how you can condemn someone from being a little odd.

Well of course you can't Steve, duh.

[sussexpob]

We've had a fair share of Aussies excluded from the team because they didn't fit the fun and banter in the dressing room. Maybe they told bad jokes, wouldn't have a beer or go to family barbeques, or whatever. Katich was one, they were desperate to get rid of Mark and my self for years. Michael Bevan, Dean Jones and a number of others have been handled in dodgy circumstances to say the least, and yet the likes of Warney could do no wrong. These guys should have never been treated like this

Symonds on the other hand refused to get a Northern Territory fishing licence, had to go. No fair enough he had an alcohol problem apparently, never saw it myself but I always trust the media.

I don't know Pietersen from a bar of soap, but he seems a little eccentric at times. Can't see how you can condemn someone from being a little odd.

I appreciate the point with Symonds, but arguably his alcohol problems were a consistent issue that couldn't be ignored, and made him unelectable. You could argue he was tolerated before that, as IIRC Matthew Hayden tried his best to take him under his arm until Symonds said he wanted to bang his wife, and was ringing up radio stations shouting obscenities when blindo. Bevan was an immense disappointment in tests, ODI's he played all the ones available for, so if there was an issue, it never prevented his career.

Katich is a better comparison, because he had very little chance playing under Michael Clarke after he tried to choke him to death. Not sure that was Katich's fault though, it was widely accepted that Clarke's attitude was to blame for that, and he was a marginal figure in the dressing room having fallen out with a few.....

But that in itself is more indicative towards favouring a KP return..... 4 years ago to have people speak of Clarke as a great leader would have initiate a shocked response from Australians, but he has become a great leader given time and maturity.

[The Waugh Twins]

Of course Symonds had problems I was just having a little joke, and I liked Clarke more at the beginning than I do now so there's at least one Aussie supporter that did. Bevans short ball problems in test was a load of rubbish and most know that. Just look at his shield performances.

I probably follow the Oz team a little closer than you do Sussex just like you follow the English team closer than I do.

[Aidan11]

Meanwhile back on the field (sort of)...

KP has picked up an injury and gone for a scan.


He'll be hoping it's nothing serious that prevents him playing in the IPL.

[braveneutral]

Meanwhile back on the field (sort of)...

KP has picked up an injury and gone for a scan.


He'll be hoping it's nothing serious that prevents him playing in the IPL.

I am hoping that it doesn't rule him out of the first test.

[The Waugh Twins]

Meanwhile back on the field (sort of)...

KP has picked up an injury and gone for a scan.


He'll be hoping it's nothing serious that prevents him playing in the IPL.

I am hoping that it doesn't rule him out of the first test.

Ha,ha.

Yes lets hope it doesn't.

[The Waugh Twins]

Michael Bevans best bowling figures in a test match; 10/113 and to this day still has the best strike rate of any Australian bowler in test cricket of 44.30. Wow now that immensely deserves being mentioned.

[sussexpob]

Michael Bevans best bowling figures in a test match; 10/113 and to this day still has the best strike rate of any Australian bowler in test cricket of 44.30. Wow now that immensely deserves being mentioned.

Scored 6 x 100's in 12 matches for Sussex in 2000 too..... a very enjoyable summer down Hove watching Bevo make the average attack look like they were bowling with beach balls to him. A great mystery why he never made it in tests.

[The Waugh Twins]

Michael Bevans best bowling figures in a test match; 10/113 and to this day still has the best strike rate of any Australian bowler in test cricket of 44.30. Wow now that immensely deserves being mentioned.

Scored 6 x 100's in 12 matches for Sussex in 2000 too..... a very enjoyable summer down Hove watching Bevo make the average attack look like they were bowling with beach balls to him. A great mystery why he never made it in tests.

The Australian test team never fully believed in him, he just didn't fit to what they were after and was in and out of the side often and likely never confident that he was a permanent fixture. The media and commentators created the short ball issue as they've done with other players and I guess it just got into his head a little bit. He could have had a great career IMHO had he been left alone.

You're lucky you got to watch him down your way, I only saw him live a few times.