westoelad wrote:Arthur Crabtree wrote:Albondiga wrote:I 've read again many of the posts on the subjects of ECB Director of cricket - chief coach - captains of Tests ODI & 20/20. I've read that Downton was useless - that Fowler was useless -
Results make the tack justified. If England are losing badly, people will wonder why. Off field management has been a catastrophe.
For what it's worth, I'm sympathetic to Morgan who accepted a role he could succeed at.
But everyone else has a lot to answer for. On his first week of the job, Strauss leaked his intended sacking of Moores, to a sports news channel, while Moores was in the middle of an ODI. He showed scant knowledge of man management by telling KP he was not to be trusted, and then offering him a job coaching the team(!), and inheriting a scenario whereby KP was offered a way back into the England team, and then shutting that off again for no new reason. Concerns that Strauss may be too close the the players he is responsible for appear to be realistic.
Everyone who knows Strauss says he's an intelligent, knowledgeable and principlined individual whose cricketing c.v. is exemplary. He has taken on a very challenging position for the sake of English cricket sacrificing a cushy lucrative position with Sky. There have been leaks coming from the ECB long before Strauss became involved so whether he was responsible for the Moores leak has to be questionable. Cook may have limitations as an England captain-I'm not arrogant enough to express an opinion-but his record as a Test batsman is almost indentical to Pietersen,8000+ runs, average 45+. If he doesn't want Pietersen in his team because he sees him disruptive so be it,is that not a captain's prerogative? Why,oh Why, can we not back 2 clearly genuine guys who are trying to do their best for Engish cricket?
alfie wrote:westoelad wrote:Arthur Crabtree wrote:Albondiga wrote:I 've read again many of the posts on the subjects of ECB Director of cricket - chief coach - captains of Tests ODI & 20/20. I've read that Downton was useless - that Fowler was useless -
Results make the tack justified. If England are losing badly, people will wonder why. Off field management has been a catastrophe.
For what it's worth, I'm sympathetic to Morgan who accepted a role he could succeed at.
But everyone else has a lot to answer for. On his first week of the job, Strauss leaked his intended sacking of Moores, to a sports news channel, while Moores was in the middle of an ODI. He showed scant knowledge of man management by telling KP he was not to be trusted, and then offering him a job coaching the team(!), and inheriting a scenario whereby KP was offered a way back into the England team, and then shutting that off again for no new reason. Concerns that Strauss may be too close the the players he is responsible for appear to be realistic.
Everyone who knows Strauss says he's an intelligent, knowledgeable and principlined individual whose cricketing c.v. is exemplary. He has taken on a very challenging position for the sake of English cricket sacrificing a cushy lucrative position with Sky. There have been leaks coming from the ECB long before Strauss became involved so whether he was responsible for the Moores leak has to be questionable. Cook may have limitations as an England captain-I'm not arrogant enough to express an opinion-but his record as a Test batsman is almost indentical to Pietersen,8000+ runs, average 45+. If he doesn't want Pietersen in his team because he sees him disruptive so be it,is that not a captain's prerogative? Why,oh Why, can we not back 2 clearly genuine guys who are trying to do their best for Engish cricket?
I guess because too many people (not just on here) have apparently taken such a dislike to Cook and anyone thought to be associated with him that they interpret everything that happens as part of an Evil Plan of his to destroy St Kevin at any cost to his team...rather overlooking the fact that Cook was instrumental in getting Pietersen his second chance back in 2012. If Cook no longer wants him in the team (not that we have anything but the word of a Mirror columnist that Cook actually issued the ultimatum being discussed...was he in the meeting ?) , surely there must be a reason ? Just possibly KP did behave in a manner that warranted wanting a prolific run maker out of the team ; or is it more logical to suppose that Cook just decided to weaken his team out of spite over...nothing ?
I have just about given up on this matter : everyone is entrenched behind their fortifications , and none of us are likely to change our views - anyway Pietersen is now injured so perhaps we will be able to take a few days off to watch a Test Match next week...
Alviro Patterson wrote:All about Adam Lyth making a good account for himself as England opener, this is another historical day for Yorkshire.
D/L wrote:Words fail me for once.
Many people are expressing the opinion that there is no real job for Strauss or anybody else re Director of Cricket. I think there is because there are two main parts to it - there's the commercial side and all that entails and the cricket side from grass roots upwards
Aidan11 wrote:ECB have now confirmed they have officially approached Gillespie.
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