ODI Series & T20i, England v New Zealand, 2015.

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Re: ODI Series, England v New Zealand, 2015.

Postby Aidan11 » Sun Jun 14, 2015 1:49 pm

Stokes gone now.
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Re: ODI Series, England v New Zealand, 2015.

Postby st_brendy » Sun Jun 14, 2015 1:49 pm

Well he definitely can't bat for Stokes now.
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Re: ODI Series, England v New Zealand, 2015.

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Sun Jun 14, 2015 1:50 pm

3-fer for Wheeler on debut. Well done to him.
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Re: ODI Series, England v New Zealand, 2015.

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Sun Jun 14, 2015 1:55 pm

Still going to be a useful score.

Commentators can't stop harping on about batting out the overs. Dinosaurs.
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Re: ODI Series, England v New Zealand, 2015.

Postby dan08 » Sun Jun 14, 2015 1:57 pm

This is the fastest scoring ODI series ever. By a long way too... http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine ... ;type=team
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Re: ODI Series, England v New Zealand, 2015.

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Sun Jun 14, 2015 1:59 pm

Useful effort from England. But great from the Kiwis to come back so strongly. I'd guess the latter are slight favourites?
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Re: ODI Series, England v New Zealand, 2015.

Postby budgetmeansbudget » Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:00 pm

England may have forgotten how to play dull defensive one day cricket, but they certainly haven't forgotten how to pathetically collapse.
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Re: ODI Series, England v New Zealand, 2015.

Postby budgetmeansbudget » Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:04 pm

It's all or nothing with England, can only play all out attack or all out defense.

Other sides which are much more practised at playing this attacking style can also play defensively at times when the match situation warrants it.

Comes back to the old no plan b.
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Re: ODI Series, England v New Zealand, 2015.

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:04 pm

I need a new, no fear style of commentary.
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Re: ODI Series, England v New Zealand, 2015.

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:10 pm

McCullum has said 'brand of cricket' once too often. It's Brand-on from now on I'm afraid BMac, until I get the apology.
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Re: ODI Series, England v New Zealand, 2015.

Postby Aidan11 » Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:15 pm

That was an unfortunate collapse.
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Re: ODI Series, England v New Zealand, 2015.

Postby backfootpunch » Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:21 pm

I'm all for being aggressive but that was reckless, a lack of adaptability cost us 30 runs and potentially the game
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Re: ODI Series, England v New Zealand, 2015.

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:47 pm

Or, playing attacking cricket got England to 300 off 45 instead of 290 off 50. While batting out the overs is obviously the aim of the innings, it's just an assumption that it will give you more runs that playing higher risk cricket over a shorter period. I've never been convinced by the iron rule of batting out the overs above all else.

NZ bowled well. If ENgland had batted cautiously they still would have attempted to attack at the end of the innings, and could have collapsed from a lower run base, scoring fewer runs overall. England, or any team just can't play 'without fear' if they play with fear when things are against them. If they'd gone to plan B in Birmingham, they would have picked up 50 fewer runs there, as they were in precarious position when Rashid and Buttler came together. No one can guarantee success.
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Re: ODI Series, England v New Zealand, 2015.

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:50 pm

Brand-On talks pretty impressively in general, but his 'brand of cricket' mantra is in danger of turning the most likable squad of players ever to visit the UK, into the most reviled since Steve Waugh's Australians...
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Re: ODI Series, England v New Zealand, 2015.

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:57 pm

Second ever score at the Rose Bowl over 300 in 11 games. NZ scored 359 there in 2013, with Guppy scoring 189*.
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