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Re: Aus v Eng ODI series

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Sun Aug 16, 2015 11:38 pm

I think Stokes was at five in the NZ series. Don't know why Buttler doesn't get a chance there.
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Re: Aus v Eng ODI series

Postby backfootpunch » Sun Aug 16, 2015 11:41 pm

Arthur Crabtree wrote:I think Stokes was at five in the NZ series. Don't know why Buttler doesn't get a chance there.


i would think buttler would be the more consistent option
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Re: Aus v Eng ODI series

Postby Slipstream » Mon Aug 17, 2015 1:39 am

First is a 20/20 game.

Hales
Ali
Root
Stokes
Morgan
Buttler
Willey
Rashid
Plunkett
Jordan
Finn

I don't think Wood will play any one day games. Also likely that Root will be rested as well. I would like Willey to open the batting in 20/20s.
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Re: Aus v Eng ODI series

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Mon Aug 17, 2015 8:50 am

Are they going to rest players, given the promises made after the last WC?

I think Broad could be back.
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Re: Aus v Eng ODI series

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Mon Aug 17, 2015 12:35 pm

Arthur Crabtree wrote:
I think Broad could be back.


Maybe Woakes.
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Re: Aus v Eng ODI series

Postby Making_Splinters » Mon Aug 17, 2015 12:58 pm

Broad has a very good ODI record. That said with his injury problems is he more valuable as a Test specialist looking long term?
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Re: Aus v Eng ODI series

Postby Slipstream » Tue Aug 18, 2015 12:23 am

Bowling in the last 18 months.
http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine ... pe=bowling

It doesn't help that there have been dropped catches (since the two balls were introduced)

17 - Finn
11 - Bresnan, Tredwell, Anderson
10 - Broad
8 - Jordan
7 - Dernbach
5 - Bopara, Stokes
4 - Swann, Woakes, Wood
2 - Meaker, Root, Rashid
1 - Patel, Borthwick, Gurney, Plunkett, Willey
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Re: Aus v Eng ODI series

Postby yorker_129-7 » Wed Aug 19, 2015 11:11 am

I think England need to make their call right now on Broad in ODI cricket going forward, if he is not in the squad for this series he won't be again in all likelihood.
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Re: Aus v Eng ODI series

Postby from_the_stands » Wed Aug 19, 2015 1:39 pm

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Re: Aus v Eng ODI series

Postby Making_Splinters » Wed Aug 19, 2015 2:13 pm

Broad and Anderson have over 400 ODI wickets between them, both average under 30 with the white ball and go at around 5 runs an over. Yet neither is likely to have much of an ODI career from here on out.

Agree strongly with Yorker that England need to decide whether or not Broad has a long term future in the ODI side. With his injury record is he going to be playing ODI cricket come the next World Cup? If the view is unlikely, then he needs to be left to play Test cricket.
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Re: Aus v Eng ODI series

Postby backfootpunch » Thu Aug 20, 2015 3:03 pm

Making_Splinters wrote:Broad has a very good ODI record. That said with his injury problems is he more valuable as a Test specialist looking long term?


broad had a good ODI record now it is average and getting worse

over the last 3 years his wickets are coming at 41.2 with an ER of 5.6, so he should be knowhere near the ODI team

as his test bowling has got better his ODI bowling has got worse
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Re: Aus v Eng ODI series

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Fri Aug 21, 2015 11:37 am

Not at all touting for Broad to return. I hope he doesn't. But I think he's nearer his best form than he has been for a while, and I wondered if that might make England want to give him another chance. His recent record doesn't really support his return, but I'm not sure he's always been that fit.
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Re: Aus v Eng ODI series

Postby rich1uk » Fri Aug 21, 2015 11:39 am

I think the fact we leave for the UAE within a couple of days of the end of this ODi series should preclude broad from playing

if there was the normal 6 weeks or so between the end of the home summer and the winter tour they might have been more tempted
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Re: Aus v Eng ODI series

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Fri Aug 21, 2015 11:45 am

Trouble with resting players is that the ECB pretty much committed to prioritising ODIs after the WC. Which means they are committed to prioritise everything. But arguably, England should just go ahead with the younger players anyway. And against NZ, apparently Bayliss asked for eleven good fielders, which doesn't really include Broad.
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Re: Aus v Eng ODI series

Postby yorker_129-7 » Fri Aug 21, 2015 12:00 pm

Broad is at his best when he's bowling top of off on a 4th stump line, is there an argument to say that, like Cook, his form is actually better when he's not having to improvise in pyjama cricket?
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