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Re: Aus v Eng ODI series

Postby m@tt » Mon Aug 31, 2015 5:00 pm

budgetmeansbudget wrote:Pietersen only played a couple of games for Hants, and I don't think his county had much bearing on his selection!!

Considering we've made finals day for the past 6 years our international representation has been pretty minimal, a handful of appearances from the three you mention.

How Tredwell ever played for England I do not know, so that was clearly becasue he played for Kent!

Yeah, that's why I didn't include him in the main list.

England hardly have a load of quality spinners. Tredwell did a great job in ODIs for us.

Still, for a "preferred county", two England players in five years (with five years in between debuts) isn't very much at all.
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Re: Aus v Eng ODI series

Postby budgetmeansbudget » Mon Aug 31, 2015 5:01 pm

backfootpunch wrote:
budgetmeansbudget wrote:
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dan08 wrote:Would Sri Lanka have dropped keeper-batsmen Chandimal and Kusal Perera just because Sangakkara was keeper? No, you pick your best batsmen even if they have to be keepers as well.

Exactly, that's why I'm questioning Billings being one of our best batsman.

He is one of the best lower order hitters we have

That hasnt changed Just because he couldn't get hold of the best death bowler in world cricket

Possibly in 50 over but not in T20 for me.


Bowling in the last five overs in ODIs and T20 is exactly the same

Give him 10 to 15 overs in a 50 over game I think he could do an ok job, give him 5 in T20 against top quality international death bowling, not for me.
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Re: Aus v Eng ODI series

Postby budgetmeansbudget » Mon Aug 31, 2015 5:03 pm

m@tt wrote:
budgetmeansbudget wrote:Pietersen only played a couple of games for Hants, and I don't think his county had much bearing on his selection!!

Considering we've made finals day for the past 6 years our international representation has been pretty minimal, a handful of appearances from the three you mention.

How Tredwell ever played for England I do not know, so that was clearly becasue he played for Kent!

Yeah, that's why I didn't include him in the main list.

England hardly have a load of quality spinners. Tredwell did a great job in ODIs for us.

Still, for a "preferred county", two England players in five years (with five years in between debuts) isn't very much at all.

I was referring to Tredwell in T20.

Kent have been rubbish for a while, so shouldn't have had any representation by rights.
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Re: Aus v Eng ODI series

Postby hopeforthebest » Mon Aug 31, 2015 5:04 pm

Topley could be Alistair Cook's double.
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Re: Aus v Eng ODI series

Postby backfootpunch » Mon Aug 31, 2015 5:08 pm

budgetmeansbudget wrote:
backfootpunch wrote:
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dan08 wrote:Would Sri Lanka have dropped keeper-batsmen Chandimal and Kusal Perera just because Sangakkara was keeper? No, you pick your best batsmen even if they have to be keepers as well.

Exactly, that's why I'm questioning Billings being one of our best batsman.

He is one of the best lower order hitters we have

That hasnt changed Just because he couldn't get hold of the best death bowler in world cricket

Possibly in 50 over but not in T20 for me.


Bowling in the last five overs in ODIs and T20 is exactly the same[/quote]
Give him 10 to 15 overs in a 50 over game I think he could do an ok job, give him 5 in T20 against top quality international death bowling, not for me.[/quote]
And you have concluded this from his two innings T20 England career

In the first he made 21 off 11
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Re: Aus v Eng ODI series

Postby backfootpunch » Mon Aug 31, 2015 5:11 pm

budgetmeansbudget wrote:
m@tt wrote:
budgetmeansbudget wrote:Pietersen only played a couple of games for Hants, and I don't think his county had much bearing on his selection!!

Considering we've made finals day for the past 6 years our international representation has been pretty minimal, a handful of appearances from the three you mention.

How Tredwell ever played for England I do not know, so that was clearly becasue he played for Kent!

Yeah, that's why I didn't include him in the main list.

England hardly have a load of quality spinners. Tredwell did a great job in ODIs for us.

Still, for a "preferred county", two England players in five years (with five years in between debuts) isn't very much at all.

I was referring to Tredwell in T20.

Kent have been rubbish for a while, so shouldn't have had any representation by rights.


I suppose you would pick briggs

They tried him, he got clattered
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Re: Aus v Eng ODI series

Postby m@tt » Mon Aug 31, 2015 5:17 pm

Just because I was curious, I did some adding up...

9 - Yorkshire
8 - Nottinghamshire
6 - Durham, Surrey
5 - Hampshire, Sussex
4 - Lancashire, Middlesex, Warwickshire,
3 - Essex*, Somerset
2 - Kent, Leicestershire, Northamptonshire, Worcestershire
0 - Derbyshire, Glamorgan, Gloucestershire
(4 if you count Monty's loan spell)

Last five years, all formats, but all counties a player represented at time of any call up included (so Leics include Taylor and Broad, but not Wright and Gurney).
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Re: Aus v Eng ODI series

Postby Aidan11 » Mon Aug 31, 2015 5:20 pm

Tricky partnership for us this one.
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Re: Aus v Eng ODI series

Postby hopeforthebest » Mon Aug 31, 2015 5:23 pm

No bowler offering any control against these two, wickets needed or they will stroll this.
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Re: Aus v Eng ODI series

Postby m@tt » Mon Aug 31, 2015 5:28 pm

Australia comfortably ahead of where we were at the same stage. Though we did accelerate a lot after the 10th.
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Re: Aus v Eng ODI series

Postby Aidan11 » Mon Aug 31, 2015 5:31 pm

Smith''s first T20 fifty.


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Re: Aus v Eng ODI series

Postby SaintPowelly » Mon Aug 31, 2015 5:35 pm

Ali to Maxwell, this is where the game is won or lost.
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Re: Aus v Eng ODI series

Postby Aidan11 » Mon Aug 31, 2015 5:37 pm

Good catch.
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Re: Aus v Eng ODI series

Postby hopeforthebest » Mon Aug 31, 2015 5:38 pm

Moeen keeps proving that it's better to be a lucky bowler than a good bowler.
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Re: Aus v Eng ODI series

Postby budgetmeansbudget » Mon Aug 31, 2015 5:39 pm

Just stuck dab radio on because i'm making dinner, tuned into five live extra for the commentary, haven't listened in years. What am I met with but a female commentator and an assistant female commentator. Typical bloody bbc. Dreadful commentary, spend all the time giggling and I'm beggared if I know what's going on.
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