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Postby from_the_stands » Tue Feb 09, 2016 2:27 am

dan08 wrote:This squad makes no sense at all. No Bailey, Boyce, Lyon, Lynn, Wade... :shock:
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My thoughts on the Oz squad; well, I'm still thinking about it. It seems to me that the selectors are still clueless about this format. How Chris Lynn has missed out truly amazes me. Ok, he didn't set the world on fire against India recently, but surely his Big Bash form still should have seen him included in a 15 man squad. The Peter Nevill selection is a bit iffy. Sure, his glovework is top notch, and he can bat, but where are his numbers in this format? I can think of a few others who might feel peeved that they've been left out.

We seem to be all rounder heavy, and clearly that didn't work against India. Out of Twatto, Mitch Marsh, and James "the finisher" Faulkner, one of those should have been left out. I guess with Twatto likely to break down any minute now, the selectors have included three all-rounders to cover that inevitability. And Glenn Maxwell counts as an all-rounder too.

There's also the question of Aaron Finch's fitness, and Nathan Coulter-Nile for that matter. And why is Ashton Agar in there? He only played a handful of games for the Scorchers this year. I do like the kid, don't get me wrong. He should consider himself very lucky. Adam Zampa I can live with, but I'd rather have gone for Nathan Lyon.

Usman Khawaja seems to be the man of the moment, and will most likely come in at 3, with Smith at 4, then Twatto and the Big No Show.

This is a tough group and the selectors are really under the kosh in this one. I can see us finishing dead last in this. Too much inexperience at international level in the format. We're really missing Mitchell Starc, and to a lesser extent, Pat Cummins.
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Postby shankycricket » Tue Feb 09, 2016 4:25 am

Very happy with WT20 squad. Not sure Boyce deserved the axe but Agar provides variety and batting. NCN back too. And a good WK. Superb! Hopefully Finch is benched.
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Re: World T20 Super 10 Group 2, India, Pak, Oz, NZ, winner A

Postby dan08 » Wed Feb 10, 2016 11:21 am

Pakistan select Khurram Manzoor who didn't even get signed up by a PSL team. Maybe a family member is a selector or something.
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Re: World T20 Super 10 Group 2, India, Pak, Oz, NZ, winner A

Postby backfootpunch » Wed Feb 10, 2016 11:28 am

shankycricket wrote:Very happy with WT20 squad. Not sure Boyce deserved the axe but Agar provides variety and batting. NCN back too. And a good WK. Superb! Hopefully Finch is benched.

Why would you want finch benched?

He is one of the best T20 players in the world, average of 40 and strike rate of 150

Passed 50 7 times in 24 innings

His record is better than warner and miles better than Steve Smith
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Re: World T20 Super 10 Group 2, India, Pak, Oz, NZ, winner A

Postby shankycricket » Thu Feb 11, 2016 6:31 pm

backfootpunch wrote:
shankycricket wrote:Very happy with WT20 squad. Not sure Boyce deserved the axe but Agar provides variety and batting. NCN back too. And a good WK. Superb! Hopefully Finch is benched.

Why would you want finch benched?

He is one of the best T20 players in the world, average of 40 and strike rate of 150

Passed 50 7 times in 24 innings

His record is better than warner and miles better than Steve Smith

International T20 record is hardly a great yardstick for selection given how few and far they are between. He has been an utter disaster in the IPL for the last 5 years (in conditions where this tournament will be played) against considerably worse bowling.

Looking into Smith's T20I batting stats is frankly ridiculous. Most of those were in 2010 when he was a spinning Allrounder batting at 8. He scored 90 off his 50 odd balls and 21 off 12 balls in his most recent T20I innings. Warner has been the leading run scorer over the last 2 seasons and both of then are proven performers in other formats. There is really no comparison.
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Re: World T20 Super 10 Group 2, India, Pak, Oz, NZ, winner A

Postby backfootpunch » Fri Feb 12, 2016 1:07 am

shankycricket wrote:
backfootpunch wrote:
shankycricket wrote:Very happy with WT20 squad. Not sure Boyce deserved the axe but Agar provides variety and batting. NCN back too. And a good WK. Superb! Hopefully Finch is benched.

Why would you want finch benched?

He is one of the best T20 players in the world, average of 40 and strike rate of 150

Passed 50 7 times in 24 innings

His record is better than warner and miles better than Steve Smith

International T20 record is hardly a great yardstick for selection given how few and far they are between. He has been an utter disaster in the IPL for the last 5 years (in conditions where this tournament will be played) against considerably worse bowling.

Looking into Smith's T20I batting stats is frankly ridiculous. Most of those were in 2010 when he was a spinning Allrounder batting at 8. He scored 90 off his 50 odd balls and 21 off 12 balls in his most recent T20I innings. Warner has been the leading run scorer over the last 2 seasons and both of then are proven performers in other formats. There is really no comparison.


complete disagree

fail to see how IPL form has any bearing at all, surely him showing he can do it in a previous ICC t20 competition in asia is much more relevant (scoring two 50s in 4 games in bangladesh 2014) also in his only t20 international in india he scored 89

and who would you pick ahead of him?

khawaja?

a player whose only experience of asian conditions is 2 test matches against sri lanka 5 years ago

aaron finch is one of the top t20 batsmen in world cricket
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Re: World T20 Super 10 Group 2, India, Pak, Oz, NZ, winner A

Postby dan08 » Fri Feb 12, 2016 8:56 am

backfootpunch wrote:
shankycricket wrote:
backfootpunch wrote:
shankycricket wrote:Very happy with WT20 squad. Not sure Boyce deserved the axe but Agar provides variety and batting. NCN back too. And a good WK. Superb! Hopefully Finch is benched.

Why would you want finch benched?

He is one of the best T20 players in the world, average of 40 and strike rate of 150

Passed 50 7 times in 24 innings

His record is better than warner and miles better than Steve Smith

International T20 record is hardly a great yardstick for selection given how few and far they are between. He has been an utter disaster in the IPL for the last 5 years (in conditions where this tournament will be played) against considerably worse bowling.

Looking into Smith's T20I batting stats is frankly ridiculous. Most of those were in 2010 when he was a spinning Allrounder batting at 8. He scored 90 off his 50 odd balls and 21 off 12 balls in his most recent T20I innings. Warner has been the leading run scorer over the last 2 seasons and both of then are proven performers in other formats. There is really no comparison.


complete disagree

fail to see how IPL form has any bearing at all, surely him showing he can do it in a previous ICC t20 competition in asia is much more relevant (scoring two 50s in 4 games in bangladesh 2014) also in his only t20 international in india he scored 89

and who would you pick ahead of him?

khawaja?

a player whose only experience of asian conditions is 2 test matches against sri lanka 5 years ago

aaron finch is one of the top t20 batsmen in world cricket

I agree. I'm far from a fan of Finch but it's ridiculous that Shanky is treating him as if he's been a complete failure. He has the best T20I record in the world when you consider he averages over 40 with a strike rate over 150.
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Postby shankycricket » Fri Feb 12, 2016 9:14 am

Lets hope the selectors don't get fooled by numbers over such a small sample.
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Re: World T20 Super 10 Group 2, India, Pak, Oz, NZ, winner A

Postby Gingerfinch » Fri Feb 12, 2016 11:34 am

Finch opening is a no brainer for me. I will admit that I know little about the other options, but they must be good if Finch's place is in question.
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Postby braveneutral » Sun Feb 14, 2016 7:14 pm

Agar should be good for some runs...
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Postby The Professor » Mon Feb 15, 2016 6:07 pm

India have lined up a friendly game against WI,p...surely bit late for all that?
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Re: World T20 Super 10 Group 2, India, Pak, Oz, NZ, winner A

Postby GarlicJam » Mon Feb 15, 2016 8:20 pm

braveneutral wrote:Agar should be good for some runs...

off his bowling, or his bat?
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Re: World T20 Super 10 Group 2, India, Pak, Oz, NZ, winner A

Postby braveneutral » Tue Feb 16, 2016 8:08 am

GarlicJam wrote:
braveneutral wrote:Agar should be good for some runs...

off his bowling, or his bat?

Either!
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Re: World T20 Super 10 Group 2, India, Pak, Oz, NZ, winner A

Postby backfootpunch » Fri Mar 04, 2016 5:23 pm

think im starting to agree with shanks

this finch is awful he only got 24 off that JP duminy over

should be dropped

whereas this steve smith is clearly the gun player with his 6 off 17 balls ;)
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Re: World T20 Super 10 Group 2, India, Pak, Oz, NZ, winner A

Postby dan08 » Fri Mar 04, 2016 6:06 pm

Actually think Bangladesh would be second favourite to qualify from this group (providing they get through the first round).
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