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Re: World T20 Super 10 Group 2, India, Pak, Oz, NZ, Bang

Postby Dr Cricket » Tue Mar 22, 2016 7:01 pm

ianp1970 wrote:
bhaveshgor wrote:Perfect result for india tomorrow would be to win by 35 runs, wins by 3-4 overs to spare and then watch Pakistan vs Australia.
If pakistan win they probably already qualified before the Australia game.


But then a decent Aus victory over Ind would tip the balance again.

yep but then india would have that scenario SA had in 2007.
Where they had to score certain amount to qualify even if they lose or bowl a certain overs to qualify.

But with T20 cricket it does make NRR tricky since Australia would only need to chase a total in 16-17 overs to knock india out.

IF India bowl first and they are ahead of Pak in the NRR after tomorrow India would pretty much qualify if Aus lose to Pakistan since then india would only need to chase a lower target than australia set for example if Aus score 160, india may only need 130-140 to qualify.

NRR is quite flawed in T20 cricket so much easier to increase the NRR if batting 2nd, very hard to increase it if you are batting first.

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Re: World T20 Super 10 Group 2, India, Pak, Oz, NZ, Bang

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Tue Mar 22, 2016 7:20 pm

I'm expecting India to win both their games and finish top. The other group feels harder to make assumptions on. SL could beat England. South Africa v WI could go either way.
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Re: World T20 Super 10 Group 2, India, Pak, Oz, NZ, Bang

Postby Dr Cricket » Tue Mar 22, 2016 7:27 pm

Arthur Crabtree wrote:I'm expecting India to win both their games and finish top. The other group feels harder to make assumptions on. SL could beat England. South Africa v WI could go either way.

India can not go top now.

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Re: World T20 Super 10 Group 2, India, Pak, Oz, NZ, Bang

Postby ianp1970 » Tue Mar 22, 2016 7:35 pm

bhaveshgor wrote:
Arthur Crabtree wrote:I'm expecting India to win both their games and finish top. The other group feels harder to make assumptions on. SL could beat England. South Africa v WI could go either way.

India can not go top now.


Sure they can. Two big wins combined win Ban beating NZ.
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Re: World T20 Super 10 Group 2, India, Pak, Oz, NZ, Bang

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Tue Mar 22, 2016 7:38 pm

bhaveshgor wrote:
Arthur Crabtree wrote:I'm expecting India to win both their games and finish top. The other group feels harder to make assumptions on. SL could beat England. South Africa v WI could go either way.

India can not go top now.


They sort of can, but that was a typo/brain-fade. I meant to say, qualify.
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Re: World T20 Super 10 Group 2, India, Pak, Oz, NZ, Bang

Postby ianp1970 » Tue Mar 22, 2016 7:39 pm

Arthur Crabtree wrote:
bhaveshgor wrote:
Arthur Crabtree wrote:I'm expecting India to win both their games and finish top. The other group feels harder to make assumptions on. SL could beat England. South Africa v WI could go either way.

India can not go top now.


They sort of can, but that was a typo/brain-fade. I meant to say, qualify.


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Re: World T20 Super 10 Group 2, India, Pak, Oz, NZ, Bang

Postby Dilbert » Wed Mar 23, 2016 3:13 pm

Slow start by Ind. We really need to get the NRR in our favour in this match.
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Re: World T20 Super 10 Group 2, India, Pak, Oz, NZ, Bang

Postby mikesiva » Wed Mar 23, 2016 3:30 pm

Rohit out for 18...one down, and it's 42-1 after six overs.
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Re: World T20 Super 10 Group 2, India, Pak, Oz, NZ, Bang

Postby backfootpunch » Wed Mar 23, 2016 3:37 pm

Game interestingly poised

160 would be a tough chase I think

India relying on kohli again
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Re: World T20 Super 10 Group 2, India, Pak, Oz, NZ, Bang

Postby mikesiva » Wed Mar 23, 2016 3:42 pm

Dhawan out now...two down. This could get interesting....
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Re: World T20 Super 10 Group 2, India, Pak, Oz, NZ, Bang

Postby Dr Cricket » Wed Mar 23, 2016 3:43 pm

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backfootpunch wrote:I meant to ask this earlier but what do people think of indias obvious tactic of producing raging turners for their games

Whilst every other game is played on a normal wicket

Not seen anything like this before from the home side in a major tournament


Sample size is too small to make this judgement yet considering the first game was played at nagpur which is always been slow and turning and the 2nd game which was affected by rain.

Also this is the first tournament played in vast extreme pitches.
You get the good pacy, small good batting wicket Mumbai, Banglore and should be Dharamasala and then the slow turners, tough to bat on Kolkata, Delhi and Nagpur.
With Mohali being in the middle.

But saying that if Banglore and Mohali start being slow and taking turn then yes the pitches have been doctored.
Banglore never really turned a huge amount and the wicket has always been great for batting and had good pace for the batsman to time the ball.
Mohali been slow lately since they haven't relaid the pitch for 20 years but even then the pitch doesn't really turn unless it has been doctored.

Anyway India is a huge country with varied wickets and with the tournament being played at 6 grounds at grounds at the north, east, south and west and middle of the country no surprise conditions vary between grounds.

So far the only pitch that has surprised me has been Dharamasala.


surely it cant be coincidence that the only two pitches in the tournament that have turned square have been in games featuring india, the rest of the games the ball hasnt really turned that much then it has ragged square in those two games

im surprised they even tried it again after it backfired on them against new zealand


Looks like you are right pitches have been doctored no way should banglore be this slow.

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Re: World T20 Super 10 Group 2, India, Pak, Oz, NZ, Bang

Postby backfootpunch » Wed Mar 23, 2016 3:43 pm

mikesiva wrote:Dhawan out now...two down. This could get interesting....

India digging themselves a bit of a hole

Looks like it will be tough to hit the spinners
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Re: World T20 Super 10 Group 2, India, Pak, Oz, NZ, Bang

Postby backfootpunch » Wed Mar 23, 2016 3:45 pm

bhaveshgor wrote:
backfootpunch wrote:
bhaveshgor wrote:
backfootpunch wrote:I meant to ask this earlier but what do people think of indias obvious tactic of producing raging turners for their games

Whilst every other game is played on a normal wicket

Not seen anything like this before from the home side in a major tournament


Sample size is too small to make this judgement yet considering the first game was played at nagpur which is always been slow and turning and the 2nd game which was affected by rain.

Also this is the first tournament played in vast extreme pitches.
You get the good pacy, small good batting wicket Mumbai, Banglore and should be Dharamasala and then the slow turners, tough to bat on Kolkata, Delhi and Nagpur.
With Mohali being in the middle.

But saying that if Banglore and Mohali start being slow and taking turn then yes the pitches have been doctored.
Banglore never really turned a huge amount and the wicket has always been great for batting and had good pace for the batsman to time the ball.
Mohali been slow lately since they haven't relaid the pitch for 20 years but even then the pitch doesn't really turn unless it has been doctored.

Anyway India is a huge country with varied wickets and with the tournament being played at 6 grounds at grounds at the north, east, south and west and middle of the country no surprise conditions vary between grounds.

So far the only pitch that has surprised me has been Dharamasala.


surely it cant be coincidence that the only two pitches in the tournament that have turned square have been in games featuring india, the rest of the games the ball hasnt really turned that much then it has ragged square in those two games

im surprised they even tried it again after it backfired on them against new zealand


Looks like you are right pitches have been doctored no way should banglore be this slow.

Exactly what I was thinking haha

It's an underhand tactic that isn't even working well

This is the sort of wicket that brings Bangladesh into the game

On a flat one india would win more often surely
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Re: World T20 Super 10 Group 2, India, Pak, Oz, NZ, Bang

Postby backfootpunch » Wed Mar 23, 2016 3:54 pm

Why is this guy bowling

Get the spinners on
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Re: World T20 Super 10 Group 2, India, Pak, Oz, NZ, Bang

Postby mikesiva » Wed Mar 23, 2016 4:08 pm

Kohli gone...three down.

Could 140 be enough on this pitch too?
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