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Re: Random Cricket Thread (International Cricket)

Postby Dr Cricket » Thu Nov 03, 2016 5:31 pm

sussexpob wrote:This 4 day test stuff seems like nonsense to me. It sounds like a way of guaranteeing more draws, especially in a sport that can be effected by weather.

Example.... Middlesex won I think 5 games of 16 in the county championship and won the title.

I am sure people will flock to a sport that has a 30% change of a result.


Won't happen anyway BCCI won't agree to it unless ICC can make ways of 4 test making more money to the TV broadcaster than 5 day games.
90 overs worth of adverts is worth a lot of money, can't see broadcaster wanting to lose a week of cricket in their schedules even if Test cricket rates lower it is still by far the highest rated sport in india.

Found it funny in cricinfo the other day when their compared ratings from odi to test in india.
of course odi rated higher but they only play what 6-13 days a yr but even if test rates way lower it can be 35-60 days a yr and all the overs adds up.

plus of course the advertisers are going to say they not going to pay huge money for test cricket, they were also saying the same thing about IPL every year the ratings fell especially around 2011-2013 period and yet Sony tv made more money from advertisement each year.
don't know how the broadcaster sell the advertisement slots but if they bundled the Test with odi/t20 can imagine the Test making good money since the advert people need the adverts to be seen while india play odi/t20 cricket matches.

Anyway if Test is way cheaper wouldn't that be more better to place adverts considering you pay less and in reality loads of people still watch the cricket, last time I checked the average rating is way lower but the people that watched the cricket for at least 3 minutes was the same amount as the odi/t20 so if the reach is the same then paying money to advertise in test is better value considering similar amount of people got a chance to watch the adverts and you paying way less for the privilege.

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Re: Random Cricket Thread (International Cricket)

Postby alfie » Fri Nov 04, 2016 3:14 am

Arthur Crabtree wrote:It is intended that more overs will be bowled in a day!


Good luck with that. Can't get 90 bowled now even with overtime and a system of fines...

Four day Tests would only encourage the team that starts poorly to delay things further in hopes of escaping with a draw. Say what one may about modern Tests , the majority get a result these days except when serious weather problems interfere.

Sounds like change for change's sake.
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Re: Random Cricket Thread (International Cricket)

Postby Dr Cricket » Sun Nov 13, 2016 9:34 pm

not sure if anyone read this but ECB in discussion with BCCI and PCB for a t20 tri series in england next year to increase T20 profile in the country before the t20 domestic revamp competition.
in return england going to have a similar competition in NZ or Australia in the winter.

not sure how england can fit all that in.

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Re: Random Cricket Thread (International Cricket)

Postby Alviro Patterson » Wed Nov 16, 2016 7:24 pm

bhaveshgor wrote:not sure if anyone read this but ECB in discussion with BCCI and PCB for a t20 tri series in england next year to increase T20 profile in the country before the t20 domestic revamp competition.
in return england going to have a similar competition in NZ or Australia in the winter.

not sure how england can fit all that in.


England tour New Zealand in Feb/March 2018 for 5 ODIs and 2 Test Matches, Australia go to New Zealand in February 2018 for 3 ODIs.

It makes more sense for the limited overs squad to go straight to New Zealand from Australia, rather than fly back to England for a fortnight.
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Re: Random Cricket Thread (International Cricket)

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Sat Nov 19, 2016 7:37 pm

Ten 'best' bowling performances listed in this review. Can't really argue with Bob, among the England bowlers.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine/co ... 67114.html

The article says more Phil Tufnell efforts are in than Shane Warne!
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Re: Random Cricket Thread (International Cricket)

Postby Gingerfinch » Sat Nov 19, 2016 7:39 pm

Benaud's 6-70 seems like a pretty tame figure, compared to some even I've seen.
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Re: Random Cricket Thread (International Cricket)

Postby Dr Cricket » Sat Nov 19, 2016 8:25 pm

Alviro Patterson wrote:
bhaveshgor wrote:not sure if anyone read this but ECB in discussion with BCCI and PCB for a t20 tri series in england next year to increase T20 profile in the country before the t20 domestic revamp competition.
in return england going to have a similar competition in NZ or Australia in the winter.

not sure how england can fit all that in.


England tour New Zealand in Feb/March 2018 for 5 ODIs and 2 Test Matches, Australia go to New Zealand in February 2018 for 3 ODIs.

It makes more sense for the limited overs squad to go straight to New Zealand from Australia, rather than fly back to England for a fortnight.


Was talking about the summer not winter.

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Re: Random Cricket Thread (International Cricket)

Postby Alviro Patterson » Sun Nov 20, 2016 3:11 pm

bhaveshgor wrote:
Alviro Patterson wrote:
bhaveshgor wrote:not sure if anyone read this but ECB in discussion with BCCI and PCB for a t20 tri series in england next year to increase T20 profile in the country before the t20 domestic revamp competition.
in return england going to have a similar competition in NZ or Australia in the winter.

not sure how england can fit all that in.


England tour New Zealand in Feb/March 2018 for 5 ODIs and 2 Test Matches, Australia go to New Zealand in February 2018 for 3 ODIs.

It makes more sense for the limited overs squad to go straight to New Zealand from Australia, rather than fly back to England for a fortnight.


Was talking about the summer not winter.


If the ECB are planning a T20 tri-series with India and Pakistan, that is more likely to happen in Summer 2018 when both nations are touring in England.
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Re: Random Cricket Thread (International Cricket)

Postby Dr Cricket » Sun Nov 20, 2016 5:28 pm

times last week were certain it was happening in 2017 but yeah 2018 makes more sense.
Especially with pakistan only touring for 2 test.

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Re: Random Cricket Thread (International Cricket)

Postby Dr Cricket » Mon Nov 21, 2016 1:16 pm

Wow how low can ICC get this week.
Misbah banned for overrate yet Cook get no punishment what so ever after literally being overs short every test match and misbah short in two test match and bam suspended for a test.
ICC are a joke.
How cook not got an overrate fine or suspension is beyond me considering how Slow england have been at bowling overs since around 2013.
They can't even bowl overs quickly in India when spinners bowl most of the overs.
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Re: Random Cricket Thread (International Cricket)

Postby Gingerfinch » Mon Nov 21, 2016 1:18 pm

bhaveshgor wrote:Wow how low can ICC get this week.
Misbah banned for overrate yet Cook get no punishment what so ever after literally being overs short every test match and misbah short in two test match and bam suspended for a test.
ICC are a joke.


Is there a minimum you need to bowl, to get away with a fine/ban?
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Re: Random Cricket Thread (International Cricket)

Postby Dr Cricket » Mon Nov 21, 2016 1:31 pm

Gingerfinch wrote:
bhaveshgor wrote:Wow how low can ICC get this week.
Misbah banned for overrate yet Cook get no punishment what so ever after literally being overs short every test match and misbah short in two test match and bam suspended for a test.
ICC are a joke.


Is there a minimum you need to bowl, to get away with a fine/ban?


No it is usually decided by some judgement from the match referees.
generally captain gets 30 mins extra to bowl overs and even more extra time to allow stoppages and stuff although overrates are decided over two innings so they can make up 1 or 2 overs up if they short in a day or something
but really if you around 4 or 5 overs short with extra 30 mins used then their something wrong with the overrates and actions need to be taken.
personally about time Cook get talked to about it since seeing him captain personally in the field and cook does take the piss at times and his so slow when the pitch is flat or not much happening with the ball.
it isn't really shocking to find when England are struggling with the ball england are often very slow at bowling overs, in my opinion Broad, Stokes are the slowest, Anderson quite quick and doesn't help Ali and Rashid are not that quick at bowling overs.
if broad gets hit same with stokes does take ages to finish the overs.
You have to imagine how slow they must be if they taking 6 hours and 30 mins to just bowl 82-85 overs in a day.

the fact england can bowl 90 overs when it suits them what annoys me.
Saw misbah, Sri lanka and india on the field and they were generally fair with the overs, but england purposely slow play down which is so annoying and that really needs to stop.
in International cricket at the moment don't think teams are slow purposely and if they are we talking about 1 or 2 overs or during times when you expect them to be slow but england are slow for literally no reason at all and it happens for a long time as well which is why they miss big over when they are really slow, other team might slow it down for maybe 30 mins but for england can be 2-3 hours and generally you find them being quicker or rushing in the last hour since they still have 22 or 25 overs remaining excluding the 30 mins extra time.

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Re: Random Cricket Thread (International Cricket)

Postby Aidan11 » Tue Nov 22, 2016 11:50 am

Warne & KP in trouble again....


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Re: Random Cricket Thread (International Cricket)

Postby Dr Cricket » Tue Nov 22, 2016 12:16 pm

Wow Australian police are strict not sure the UK police would do that with video evidence.

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Re: Random Cricket Thread (International Cricket)

Postby GarlicJam » Tue Nov 22, 2016 12:44 pm

The biggest surprise for me was Warne's age. He's 47 already...
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