3rd Test: India v England at Mohali on Nov 26-30

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Re: 3rd Test: India v England at Mohali on Nov 26-30

Postby Dr Cricket » Sun Nov 27, 2016 10:46 am

Well played kohli

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Re: 3rd Test: India v England at Mohali on Nov 26-30

Postby hopeforthebest » Sun Nov 27, 2016 10:48 am

Ashwin looks as if he plans to be once more a thorn in England's side. No third man for him is asking for trouble.
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Re: 3rd Test: India v England at Mohali on Nov 26-30

Postby hopeforthebest » Sun Nov 27, 2016 10:58 am

I think Ashwin is a wonderful cricketer and I would swap him for Stokes any day of the week.
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Re: 3rd Test: India v England at Mohali on Nov 26-30

Postby meninblue » Sun Nov 27, 2016 10:58 am

89 runs to wipe off. Virat, Ashwin, Jaddu and Jayant can do that with one partnership amongst them. I am expecting lead of minimum 60 odd.
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Re: 3rd Test: India v England at Mohali on Nov 26-30

Postby rich1uk » Sun Nov 27, 2016 11:02 am

hopeforthebest wrote:By waiting so long before giving Batty the ball it signals how little regard Cook has for his bowling and that's not encouraging for any bowler. Bad captaincy.


dont think anyone has much regard for batty as a bowler at this level

what we are seeing is the end result of shoe-horning someone who isn't good enough at this level into a side just to have 3 spinners, he isn't really needed as a bowler so the captain is obviously going to bowl the guys he thinks are better options

an extra batsman is almost always going to add something to the side as he will be needed to bat, an extra bowler adds very little when you already have 5 other bowlers
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Re: 3rd Test: India v England at Mohali on Nov 26-30

Postby Dr Cricket » Sun Nov 27, 2016 11:03 am

massive wicket for England, Kohli goes and Stokes gets his man.
Celebration was quite funny as well.

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Re: 3rd Test: India v England at Mohali on Nov 26-30

Postby Dr Cricket » Sun Nov 27, 2016 11:05 am

rich1uk wrote:
hopeforthebest wrote:By waiting so long before giving Batty the ball it signals how little regard Cook has for his bowling and that's not encouraging for any bowler. Bad captaincy.


dont think anyone has much regard for batty as a bowler at this level

what we are seeing is the end result of shoe-horning someone who isn't good enough at this level into a side just to have 3 spinners, he isn't really needed as a bowler so the captain is obviously going to bowl the guys he thinks are better options

an extra batsman is almost always going to add something to the side as he will be needed to bat, an extra bowler adds very little when you already have 5 other bowlers


They really need to change the squad, bit of a handicap of trying to win in india with 10 players when even with 11 players the challenge to win game is hard.
can't pick a bowler since Finn, Ball, Ansari, Batty don't add much and with the bat Duckett, Ballance don't add much either.

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Re: 3rd Test: India v England at Mohali on Nov 26-30

Postby hopeforthebest » Sun Nov 27, 2016 11:05 am

I suspect if England are to get anything out of this game it's going have to rain for at least 2 days. Kohli out to a Stokes delivery outside off he could have left. Getting out to Stokes will hurt double.
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Re: 3rd Test: India v England at Mohali on Nov 26-30

Postby ddb » Sun Nov 27, 2016 11:06 am

rich1uk wrote:
hopeforthebest wrote:By waiting so long before giving Batty the ball it signals how little regard Cook has for his bowling and that's not encouraging for any bowler. Bad captaincy.


dont think anyone has much regard for batty as a bowler at this level

what we are seeing is the end result of shoe-horning someone who isn't good enough at this level into a side just to have 3 spinners, he isn't really needed as a bowler so the captain is obviously going to bowl the guys he thinks are better options

an extra batsman is almost always going to add something to the side as he will be needed to bat, an extra bowler adds very little when you already have 5 other bowlers

It's madness, England should play to their strengths. They are doing what you shouldn't abroad, I remember India trying to play 4 pace bowlers at Perth with Vinay Kumar one of them. :laugh
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Re: 3rd Test: India v England at Mohali on Nov 26-30

Postby Dr Cricket » Sun Nov 27, 2016 11:07 am

Need something from Jadeja here.
Can he finally show people why and how he got 3 triple hundreds in domestic cricket.

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Re: 3rd Test: India v England at Mohali on Nov 26-30

Postby hopeforthebest » Sun Nov 27, 2016 11:12 am

ddb wrote:
rich1uk wrote:
hopeforthebest wrote:By waiting so long before giving Batty the ball it signals how little regard Cook has for his bowling and that's not encouraging for any bowler. Bad captaincy.


dont think anyone has much regard for batty as a bowler at this level

what we are seeing is the end result of shoe-horning someone who isn't good enough at this level into a side just to have 3 spinners, he isn't really needed as a bowler so the captain is obviously going to bowl the guys he thinks are better options

an extra batsman is almost always going to add something to the side as he will be needed to bat, an extra bowler adds very little when you already have 5 other bowlers

It's madness, England should play to their strengths. They are doing what you shouldn't abroad, I remember India trying to play 4 pace bowlers at Perth with Vinay Kumar one of them. :laugh


Agreed but picking a bowler and not using him is crazy and disrespectful to the player. The squad of course is as bad as it could be for a tour to India.
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Re: 3rd Test: India v England at Mohali on Nov 26-30

Postby rich1uk » Sun Nov 27, 2016 11:15 am

ddb wrote:
rich1uk wrote:
hopeforthebest wrote:By waiting so long before giving Batty the ball it signals how little regard Cook has for his bowling and that's not encouraging for any bowler. Bad captaincy.


dont think anyone has much regard for batty as a bowler at this level

what we are seeing is the end result of shoe-horning someone who isn't good enough at this level into a side just to have 3 spinners, he isn't really needed as a bowler so the captain is obviously going to bowl the guys he thinks are better options

an extra batsman is almost always going to add something to the side as he will be needed to bat, an extra bowler adds very little when you already have 5 other bowlers

It's madness, England should play to their strengths. They are doing what you shouldn't abroad, I remember India trying to play 4 pace bowlers at Perth with Vinay Kumar one of them. :laugh


i accept you have to take account of conditions but when your strength in either seam or spin is so poor then i just dont think it makes sense to pack the side with weaker players

even in exceptionally friendly conditions for spin in bangladesh, and having 3 spinners in both tests, we still saw a situation where 16 of the 40 wickets england took were by seamers

if anderson, woakes and broad are all fit for the rest of the series then all 3 should play imo, even if that means we have 4 seamers and just 2 spinners
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Re: 3rd Test: India v England at Mohali on Nov 26-30

Postby Dr Cricket » Sun Nov 27, 2016 11:17 am

Actually forgot about broad there, yeah that england best 11.
4 seam + 2 spinners although not sure Stokes would bowl much.

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Re: 3rd Test: India v England at Mohali on Nov 26-30

Postby Dr Cricket » Sun Nov 27, 2016 11:22 am

Adi wrote:89 runs to wipe off. Virat, Ashwin, Jaddu and Jayant can do that with one partnership amongst them. I am expecting lead of minimum 60 odd.

You must have faith in Jadeja batting abilities he quite lucky Jayant batting below him.

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Re: 3rd Test: India v England at Mohali on Nov 26-30

Postby meninblue » Sun Nov 27, 2016 11:23 am

Gareth uncle has leaked 21 runs in 3 overs. If he is the specialist spinner / bowler then he should be ideally bowling more overs than Moeen or Ben atleast in Indian conditions. Is Gareth the best specialist spinner England has :hmmm
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