3rd Test: India v England at Mohali on Nov 26-30

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Re: 3rd Test: India v England at Mohali on Nov 26-30

Postby alfie » Tue Nov 29, 2016 12:41 am

bhaveshgor wrote:TBH they only need to look at ashwin at Rajkot and 2012 series that Ashwin does lose patience and will start giving bad balls away although admittedly it will be far longer to reach that stage but it is possible especially on the docile wicket so far in this series.
England can't say Ashwin and Jadeja spinning it around corners.
At the moment Ashwin and Jadeja having it too easy.


I think Ashwin is a better bowler now than he was in 2012. But yes , I agree a bit of ( or actually a lot of ) patience is what is required . India have made consistent over 400 scores through being prepared to weather tight periods of bowling and plunder the looser spells...England should at least attempt to emulate that approach.
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Re: 3rd Test: India v England at Mohali on Nov 26-30

Postby rich1uk » Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:19 am

there's a fine line tho between weathering the storm and just getting completely bogged down and we tend to go more towards the latter imo

maybe it is just down to the difference in the quality of spinners but when india were struggling to score i still never felt we looked like running through them

when we go out to bat with that defensive mindset its like wickets are just waiting to fall

obviously been a couple of partnerships that have toughed it out but never really loooked comfortable doing so. playing spin well comes down to good footwork and i think we tend to get a bit static when trying to defend against spin and become very vulnerable to changes in length as much as spin itself
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Re: 3rd Test: India v England at Mohali on Nov 26-30

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:24 am

Cook is (statistically) one of the best players of spin there's been, and he barely moves his feet and plays it overwhelmingly from the crease. Is it possible that other England players use him as a model, when perhaps for most people that's not the best way
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Re: 3rd Test: India v England at Mohali on Nov 26-30

Postby rich1uk » Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:33 am

Arthur Crabtree wrote:Cook is (statistically) one of the best players of spin there's been, and he barely moves his feet and plays it overwhelmingly from the crease. Is it possible that other England players use him as a model, when perhaps for most people that's not the best way


possibly but cook has never really relied on fancy footwork against seam either and is probably an exception to the rule, so trying to copy him might not be a good idea for other people
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Re: 3rd Test: India v England at Mohali on Nov 26-30

Postby bigfluffylemon » Tue Nov 29, 2016 4:43 am

rich1uk wrote:there's a fine line tho between weathering the storm and just getting completely bogged down and we tend to go more towards the latter imo

maybe it is just down to the difference in the quality of spinners but when india were struggling to score i still never felt we looked like running through them

when we go out to bat with that defensive mindset its like wickets are just waiting to fall


I know what you mean, but it seems perverse, doesn't it? It's why you can't simply block every ball when there's an accurate spinner bowling, that's a recipe for having five men around the bat. But you can keep things moving and push the field back simply by knocking the ball along the ground into the gaps created by so many close catchers and taking a couple of easy singles each over, which rotates the strike and helps keep the bowlers from settling, rather than always being in the mindset of 'positive cricket'='attack'='boundaries'.
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Re: 3rd Test: India v England at Mohali on Nov 26-30

Postby bigfluffylemon » Tue Nov 29, 2016 5:10 am

Are we all out yet? :hide

Not sure I'd bet against an innings defeat the way we bat at the moment.
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Re: 3rd Test: India v England at Mohali on Nov 26-30

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Tue Nov 29, 2016 5:14 am

Jadeja (Adi's stopped calling him Sir?) now has a series SR of 96.

Maybe the last game of Batty's strange Test career. Turning up like Zelig for Lara's 400 and BD's first Test defeat of England.
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Re: 3rd Test: India v England at Mohali on Nov 26-30

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Tue Nov 29, 2016 5:15 am

Apparently Haseeb will bat.
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Re: 3rd Test: India v England at Mohali on Nov 26-30

Postby meninblue » Tue Nov 29, 2016 5:23 am

Arthur Crabtree wrote:Jadeja (Adi's stopped calling him Sir?) now has a series SR of 96.

Maybe the last game of Batty's strange Test career. Turning up like Zelig for Lara's 400 and BD's first Test defeat of England.



Sir takes one more wicket. Gareth uncle is out. :clap

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Re: 3rd Test: India v England at Mohali on Nov 26-30

Postby bigfluffylemon » Tue Nov 29, 2016 5:30 am

Arthur Crabtree wrote:Jadeja (Adi's stopped calling him Sir?) now has a series SR of 96.

Maybe the last game of Batty's strange Test career. Turning up like Zelig for Lara's 400 and BD's first Test defeat of England.


Make a note. He'll be a trivia question in a few years time.
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Re: 3rd Test: India v England at Mohali on Nov 26-30

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Tue Nov 29, 2016 5:36 am

Bet all the commentators were saying JB2 was doing the right thing playing his shots... then when he gets out they'll say that he didn't have to play that one.
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Re: 3rd Test: India v England at Mohali on Nov 26-30

Postby bigfluffylemon » Tue Nov 29, 2016 5:40 am

Oh FFS. Buttler out with a slog down cow corner's throat :facepalm

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Re: 3rd Test: India v England at Mohali on Nov 26-30

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Tue Nov 29, 2016 5:44 am

Wonder if there's a composite non-Asian side that could beat India in India right now. Root would be in it.
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Re: 3rd Test: India v England at Mohali on Nov 26-30

Postby Gingerfinch » Tue Nov 29, 2016 6:06 am

Not the score I wanted to wake up and see. Can we get a lead of 150?
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Re: 3rd Test: India v England at Mohali on Nov 26-30

Postby meninblue » Tue Nov 29, 2016 6:18 am

Hope 1 wicket falls in remaining 7 runs.
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