by shankycricket » Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:23 am
rich1uk wrote:shankycricket wrote:365notout wrote:There was no knee jerk reaction because there was no one to jerk to...O'Keefe's injury only thing keeping Lyon in the squad.
Lyon's performance here is an absolute disaster for our chances in BCCI. I've run out of vocabulary to describe just how piss poor he is in Asian conditions. WORST spinner ever in Asian conditions among those who have had 4 tours to the region. I challenge all the Lyon fans here to name worse.
surely its more relevant to compare Lyon to the current alternatives for his spot than a list of people who have toured the sub-con in the past
But even spinners who have average records in general have stepped up to deliver in Asia (see Nicky Boje, Shaun Udal - only 1 Test but still more than what Lyon has done across 4 tours, even Rashid in India right now). All these spinners have Test records that might be inferior to someone like Lyon overall but their style of bowling might be more suited to Asian conditions and do better in Asia. Lyon has failed on 4 consecutive tours to Asia and whats worse is that each of those have been worse than the previous (not talking about stats here, I know his final stats in SL make for ok reading but he bowled terribly). I don't see the point of continuing something thats clearly not worked and expect different results. Its hardly unthinkable that someone like SOK (who has a much better FC record than Lyon btw) or Holland or Ahmed (played his cricket in Asia at a young age) or Zampa (good limited overs record in Asia) could do better. Even if they do worse, what have Australia got to lose in India anyway trying something new? We can't do worse! People blame batsmen for their failures in Sri Lanka but most of them were on their first or second tour of Asia and the conditions were bowler friendly. Lyon, the most experienced member of the side, on his fourth tour of Asia and second in Sri Lanka failed on pitches that were SUPPOSED TO SUIT HIM (unlike the batsmen) failed miserably but supposedly gets sympathized for it? And no, saying the batsmen didn't give him enough runs to play with argument doesn't make any sense since Australia bowled first in all the 3 Tests (before the batsmen even came into the play) and even if we are talking about the 3rd innings, Australia had first innings lead in 2 of the 3 Tests. The 3rd innings at Galle is the only time the "not enough runs by batsmen" argument could be considered valid.
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