Making_Splinters wrote:Hameed does seem to be getting some of his form back, he made 80 tough runs against Middlesex this week, he's also a lot more defensive than any other option which would help protect the flaky middle order, but Stoneman has to start the first Test.
As for Westley, he's not exactly impressed and while he's clearly talented his habit of playing around his front pad is going to be exploited, can he work out a way to stop doing it in the few CC innings he has left I wonder. The most obvious, and I know I've banged on about it, fix to the order would be batting Root at three and Stokes at 5. I'd find it difficult to advocate throwing another new player in at 3 for the Ashes which really only leaves Hales and he wants to bat lower down.
I supposed it depends on what exactly Bayliss means by experienced players, is he talking generally or just in Test cricket? Could open the door for someone like Roy. Buttler will likely go because he's experienced internationally, it's hard to impress when you don't play, he did make 40 odd a game or two ago and had a good T20 campaign.
Durhamfootman wrote:I think they'll tear Stonemercenary apart
I am biased, of course
but you watch!
he won't last 5 minutes
Arthur Crabtree wrote:The quicker pitches potentially could make planting the front pad even more problematic. There will be reverse swing and Hazlewood at least will seam the ball at a very high standard. We'll see. If one of the rookie three emerges from this tough tour that would be a good outcome for England.
westoelad wrote: I think the aforementioned 4 wise men are more qualified to speak on the issue
Arthur Crabtree wrote:westoelad wrote: I think the aforementioned 4 wise men are more qualified to speak on the issue
As William Goldman famously said, nobody knows anything. Though in retrospect, everyone will have seen the signs.
There are many greats with just the same flaws as the multitudes who failed. Currently the Sky box has as much of an idea as anyone who will score runs in Australia. I don't recall anyone predicting Carberry would head the averages last time around. Or that England would be wrecked by Mitchell Johnson.
sussexpob wrote:England have had 2 x 5-0 drubbings in a decade in Australia, and these experts are predicting English batsman will probably prefer playing away against a world class attack, than a team that hasnt achieved anything in tests for nearly 20 years at home?
westoelad wrote:Durhamfootman wrote:I think they'll tear Stonemercenary apart
I am biased, of course
but you watch!
he won't last 5 minutes
With the greatest respect D/F, I think the aforementioned 4 wise men are more qualified to speak on the issue and, as you admit, you're biased. I think he has the ability, it's his temperament that is debatable. We've seen him play disciplined innings but not consistently. He certainly appears to have displayed consistency at Surrey.
Durhamfootman wrote:westoelad wrote:Durhamfootman wrote:I think they'll tear Stonemercenary apart
I am biased, of course
but you watch!
he won't last 5 minutes
With the greatest respect D/F, I think the aforementioned 4 wise men are more qualified to speak on the issue and, as you admit, you're biased. I think he has the ability, it's his temperament that is debatable. We've seen him play disciplined innings but not consistently. He certainly appears to have displayed consistency at Surrey.
I'll stand by my assertion
Find out if I'm right in a few months time
sussexpob wrote:Aside from the pedantic comment, I dont think the point made about it potentially being easier due to the lack of ball movement, is at all a sensible one to make considering the performance of some of our far superior batting line ups in Australia in history. Home against Windies, away against Australia, I know which Id want to play.
Stoneman for me looks like a player who's feet take a while to get moving. Especially early in his innings, he likes to plant his feet before delivery, and rely on his hands a lot. He might struggle with extra bounce and accuracy of Australia, playing away from his pad. When he settles, he picks up the ball better, has decent hand-eye coordination to pick up the ball. But always looks like a vulnerable player early in the innings.
Return to International Cricket
Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 0 guests