andy wrote:Right guys i've had some time to think about the bans, and i have strong thoughts on the whole thing, most of you will not agree, and it may flare something up but i need to say how i feel on this matter:
Ever since the rumours etc came out, i had a bad feeling about this, and for me shows that there is clearly a huge problem in the Australia dressing room, led by no suprise David Warner. The fact that he chose the cowards' way and 'delegated' this to his young opening partner in Cam Bancroft, illustrates one of the key points in that dressong room....which to me says that there is an element of a bullying dynamic in that dressing room, He couldn't fulfill the indiscretion himself, and therefore sucked in a promising young player at the start of his career, who obviously thought that due to the team dynamics that he had to do this, to in a manner of speaking, stay in the side. Steve Smith completely saddens me with this. A fantastic batsman, and the nation's sweetheart, someone who had the world at his feet, has just thrown everything away over a piece of sandpaper, and that saddens me, The world class bowling attack Australia has, didn't need to go down this route at all, they have enough to bowl any side out, anywhere, and it's just devastating to see them go down this route. The thing that really saddens me though is, Darren Lehman, and CA'S inablity to see that somehow he must have had a role in this. I know innocent till proven guilty, but this is a guy who has clearly changed the team and the mannerisms since taking over. A guy who has instilled, a bit of 'the old aussie way', since taking over from Mickey Arthur. A guy who has always gone to any length to win a game of cricket. Now it's clearly incriminating that he was on that radio, with Peter Handscomb, telling Bancroft he had been caught...if he knew nothing about it, then he wouldn't have done anything... im very sure that he had a key role to play in this, and i feel that there's so much more to come out of all this...
Now the bit that will really cause some arguing, i apolgise, if it does, but i feel strongly about this
The reason i feel so strongly about the length of the bans, and the reason i feel they should be shortter is: If you go onto the field, and spontaneously dig nails in, and/or change the ball on the spot, that is bad enough, but people have done it, apolgised moved on....this was clearly a pre-planned bit of action, a team has decided before going on the field they are going to cheat, no matter what, and clearly decieve the game of cricket....I feel that techincially it falls under cheating, as does spot-fixing.... so for me, in my eyes, i feel that this should be treated with the seriousness of spot fixing and any other cheating...im not taking prison sentences, that's crazy....however this would be my punishments and why
Steve Smith - 10 years: The captain, he knew about all of this, and didn't try and stop it, for me similair to Salman Butt...didn't fix/cheat himself, but as the captain there is no coming back from this, and the shame he has brought onto the game...and has literally showed no signs of remorse, he dosen't even seem sorry
David Warner - life. Yes i know it may seem harsh, but it's not the first time he has brought the game into disrepute, He showed many signs of cowardice, and he couldn't bring himslf to do the crime and handed it down to a young man starting out his career for the first time. it seems he and CA will be going their seperate ways anyway, for me this is one step too many
Cam Bancroft: 3 -5 years: I feel a little for the guy here, obviously has come into the side and it appears that he may have been coaxed into doing this, i highly doubt a guy starting his test career would do something like this, off of his own back, however that being said, he did commit the crime and therefore punihshment should be served
The thing that upsets me the most though is Steve Smith. Hasn't showed any signs of remorse, or genuinely looked dissapointed, and had they not been caught, there is no way they would have admitted, and it probably would still go on...
again i apolgise if this is all to controversial but i had to say it, and i obviuosly am prepeared for the wave of comments that will probably come my way
mikesiva wrote:Wow andy you're a hard man.
I respect your opinion but I respectfully disagree. I believe everyone deserves a chance for rehabilitation. Even Warner.
I think the punishment is probably about right. I probably would have followed from_the_stands proposal and given six months but there you go.
I do agree that Lehmann seems to have got away with it. The bowlers are feigning ignorance too.
It's a bad week for the whole team.
andy wrote:The world class bowling attack Australia has, didn't need to go down this route at all, they have enough to bowl any side out, anywhere, and it's just devastating to see them go down this route.
Gingerfinch wrote:A years ban seems about right. I still don't see how Lehmann has got off, unless he's just a silent partner type of coach!!!
Not that it maked it right, but haven't players been scuffing or interfering with the ball for years now? I remember Athers rubbing some dirt on it once.
Adi wrote:Gingerfinch wrote:A years ban seems about right. I still don't see how Lehmann has got off, unless he's just a silent partner type of coach!!!
Not that it maked it right, but haven't players been scuffing or interfering with the ball for years now? I remember Athers rubbing some dirt on it once.
One difference is no fans of other countries have reacted so angrily towards their own players in cases of ball tampering.Aussie fans did, so much was the opposition from fans that even broadcasters were worried and talked about the contracts negotiation with CA. Sponsors would not take risk to associate themselves with these players whom fans were severely demanding punishment against. PM also stepped in. The evidence was so much as it was a plan to catch them on cameras, that Smith had to accept. also he said that it was leadership plan it got more spotlight. Whereas SA fans had accepted when Faf did same. In fact Faf initially denied it. So the reactions in this case was far too much to avoid.
Gingerfinch wrote:Adi wrote:Gingerfinch wrote:A years ban seems about right. I still don't see how Lehmann has got off, unless he's just a silent partner type of coach!!!
Not that it maked it right, but haven't players been scuffing or interfering with the ball for years now? I remember Athers rubbing some dirt on it once.
One difference is no fans of other countries have reacted so angrily towards their own players in cases of ball tampering.Aussie fans did, so much was the opposition from fans that even broadcasters were worried and talked about the contracts negotiation with CA. Sponsors would not take risk to associate themselves with these players whom fans were severely demanding punishment against. PM also stepped in. The evidence was so much as it was a plan to catch them on cameras, that Smith had to accept. also he said that it was leadership plan it got more spotlight. Whereas SA fans had accepted when Faf did same. In fact Faf initially denied it. So the reactions in this case was far too much to avoid.
The outcry has surprised me tbh. I said a year ban was about right, but I would have been happy with a massive fine and a 6 month one.
Adi wrote:Afridi got captaincy in all formats after the series where he did ball biting act. Here CA have banned Smith and Warner for a year.
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