sussexpob wrote:Thanks for the detailed response, Adi.
I think its fair to say that money plays its part; Mumbai is rich, a capital of wealth, and therefore has some infrastructure. I just wonder how much talent exists bubbling under the surface, and how hard the game in India is looking. Cricket in many ways is a different reality to other worldwide sports; it needs a certain degree of space, and a certain degree of equipment when getting to an organised format .... the big metropolis may have that in India, as you outline... but where it does not, I would guess no one is looking.
Football is much simpler to play, the main reason its the world's adopted sport..... but in football, how many of the best talents came from the slums of South America where no infrastructure existed? In places like Argentina, its the barrios that produce your Maradona's and such....
I wonder how many ridiculously talented cricketers exist outside of the system in India.... and fear that, once India start looking for them, no one has any chance left in the International game.
andy wrote:Random question i know.....but for you guys does Ravindra Jadeja make all an time test Indian XI?
meninblue wrote:andy wrote:Random question i know.....but for you guys does Ravindra Jadeja make all an time test Indian XI?
Ashwin and Kumble are the first two choice bowlers given their skills with spin bowling. Although very successful, Jaddu is a limited spinner in term of variations. He would eb the third spinner if the test match is in Asia. Also, amongst all the test payers in India, Jadeja is the best fielder Indian has seen who has played test forma tin India Robin Singh, Yuvraj, Mohd. kaif could not maitain a spot in test cricket. Also Sir can surely bat and his batting in last 5 years or so has vastly improved.
Arthur Crabtree wrote:Not playing Test cricket at a time of great strength though. It's hard to allow for, but is the game now really as strong as 20 years ago?
sussexpob wrote:Did Ben ever find himself bowling to Hayden, Langer, Ponting, Clarke, Hussey, Symonds and Gilchrist in the same match, then faced up to Warne, McGrath, Lee, Clark and DIzzy when coming out to bat?
Arthur Crabtree wrote: I accept the golden age is unknowably murky.
sussexpob wrote:meninblue wrote:andy wrote:Random question i know.....but for you guys does Ravindra Jadeja make all an time test Indian XI?
Ashwin and Kumble are the first two choice bowlers given their skills with spin bowling. Although very successful, Jaddu is a limited spinner in term of variations. He would eb the third spinner if the test match is in Asia. Also, amongst all the test payers in India, Jadeja is the best fielder Indian has seen who has played test forma tin India Robin Singh, Yuvraj, Mohd. kaif could not maitain a spot in test cricket. Also Sir can surely bat and his batting in last 5 years or so has vastly improved.
I don't get why Kumble should be considered above Jadeja. Jadeja averages 20 to Kumbles 24 in India.... and 32 away to Kumble's 35.... before we consider the fielding excellence and the huge difference in batting. Kumble's away record without BD and Zimbabwe is even less impressive. He averages nearly 40.... which is falling away from bare minimum test standards.
Kumble had to play on helpful tracks because he didnt turn it a lot. On non-spinning tracks, he had to rely on variation of bounce.... even in era's where England couldnt bat against spin for toffee, he did nothing
Arthur Crabtree wrote:Tommo was clocked at 98 at his peak.
Arthur Crabtree wrote:Not playing Test cricket at a time of great strength though. It's hard to allow for, but is the game now really as strong as 20 years ago?
Arthur Crabtree wrote:I was comparing with 20 years ago, which isn't deep history. I accept the golden age is unknowably murky. Though The Don's average being 40 above anyone else from his era still demands respect...
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