Counting down to the back-to-back Ashes series in 2013/14

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Re: Counting down to the back-to-back Ashes series in 2013/14

Postby GarlicJam » Fri May 10, 2013 10:39 am

Kim wrote:Difficult one. Both parents English. Born in Hong Kong. Lived all his life in Australia. A phenomenon with the bat. Warwicks seconds debut at 14. Aus under 19 debut at 16.

As Australian as Strauss is English then- which is English through and through, as far as I have ever thought.

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Re: Counting down to the back-to-back Ashes series in 2013/14

Postby GarlicJam » Fri May 10, 2013 10:41 am

Arthur Crabtree wrote:Who knows what the Aussies will look like.

WE certainly don't.
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Re: Counting down to the back-to-back Ashes series in 2013/14

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Fri May 10, 2013 10:46 am

Strausser came to uk at the age of about 8, and had a SA father. So in UK longer, but 50% less parentage. There should be a formula to wok out how English you are.
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Re: Counting down to the back-to-back Ashes series in 2013/14

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Fri May 10, 2013 10:49 am

Years in UK before the age of 18 times English parents, plus union flag tattoos.
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Re: Counting down to the back-to-back Ashes series in 2013/14

Postby GarlicJam » Fri May 10, 2013 12:11 pm

Arthur Crabtree wrote:Strausser came to uk at the age of about 8, and had a SA father. So in UK longer, but 50% less parentage. There should be a formula to wok out how English you are.
Accent + attitude wins overall (assuming qualification is reached). Hence Strauss is English, Symonds is Aussie.

Although, I thought it was about 3-4 y.o. for AS.


Hain, I'd have no idea.
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Re: Counting down to the back-to-back Ashes series in 2013/14

Postby shankycricket » Fri May 10, 2013 12:16 pm

Which away Ashes, Arthur? Are you saying he's gonna go this winter? Pretty sure he's categorically stated that he wants 10K runs. Think he'll go after 2015 WC/Ashes.

Prior will be there in 2015 for sure. Bell may not be but not necessarily due to age, just hard to predict his form.
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Re: Counting down to the back-to-back Ashes series in 2013/14

Postby Kim » Fri May 10, 2013 1:12 pm

GarlicJam wrote:
Arthur Crabtree wrote:Strausser came to uk at the age of about 8, and had a SA father. So in UK longer, but 50% less parentage. There should be a formula to wok out how English you are.
Accent + attitude wins overall (assuming qualification is reached). Hence Strauss is English, Symonds is Aussie.

Although, I thought it was about 3-4 y.o. for AS.


Hain, I'd have no idea.


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Re: Counting down to the back-to-back Ashes series in 2013/14

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Fri May 10, 2013 1:38 pm

I thought it was three years until the next Ashes, but it's two. Even so, KP won't be around for another Ashes series. I guess in two years, the team could be the same, but we'd need to phase in a couple of changes.

2017-18 for the next away one.

I thought Strauss went from SA to Australia (presumably picking up his politics there) at the age of about four. And then came here later on. Let me look it up. It's vague on wikipedia, and elsewhere. He came to England at the age of six, seemingly from SA. Then it appears that he went to school for a while in Australia and finished his education in UK.
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Re: Counting down to the back-to-back Ashes series in 2013/14

Postby GarlicJam » Fri May 10, 2013 1:54 pm

So, whaddyasayin, you blokes pinched him from us?
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Re: Counting down to the back-to-back Ashes series in 2013/14

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Fri May 10, 2013 2:09 pm

I think you have to live in the uk now before the age of 18 otherwise you incur a huge qualifying period. So maybe he's keeping his options open. Or like Symonds, taking advantage of the opportunity to play in UK.
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Re: Counting down to the back-to-back Ashes series in 2013/14

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Sat May 11, 2013 1:43 pm

KP to play for Surrey on June 12, and will play three fc games before the first Test v Australia in Nottingham.

Good news. With Bresnan and Swann back, the injuries are clearing up in time for the Ashes. Just a shame KP isn't fit for NZ.

Not really clear what is happening with Tremlett. He's playing for Surrey, but hasn't been considered for England and isn't playing for the Lions.
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Re: Counting down to the back-to-back Ashes series in 2013/14

Postby Kim » Sat May 11, 2013 3:20 pm

GD has a little rant about Tremlett here - about 5 mins in

http://www.espncricinfo.com/county-cric ... 35269.html
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Re: Counting down to the back-to-back Ashes series in 2013/14

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Sat May 11, 2013 5:20 pm

If he is that much below par, it's strange that Surrey are picking him though. If he's good enough for Surrey to pick, then he might be considered for England. It's a bit of a paradox.
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Re: Counting down to the back-to-back Ashes series in 2013/14

Postby braveneutral » Sat May 11, 2013 5:37 pm

Particularly when you consider the preference of the ECB to pick from southern counties. ;)
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Re: Counting down to the back-to-back Ashes series in 2013/14

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Wed May 15, 2013 10:55 am

I'm starting to feel nervous about how reliably we can expect Australia to fail with the bat. They were doing ok, until they faced the South Africans, and the specific problem of facing India in India. Neither of these are a factor this summer. Clarke made huge runs under these impediments. So expect Bradmanesque feats from him. Especially if the sky remains clear, they should make 350+ most times.
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