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[ddb]

http://www.espncricinfo.com/champions-league-twenty20-2012/content/current/story/570875.html

Has to be this way as I said in the other thread, ESPN need more Indian teams playing to justify renewing the deal. This is to prevent its death, probably, or at least not have a too small cut down deal.

[shankycricket]

http://www.espncricinfo.com/champions-league-twenty20-2012/content/current/story/570875.html

Has to be this way as I said in the other thread, ESPN need more Indian teams playing to justify renewing the deal. This is to prevent its death, probably, or at least not have a too small cut down deal.

Then why have a Champions League? Just have a mini IPL. All the teams Indian. So more money. Problem solved.

[shankycricket]

And my above question is a genuine question and not a wind up. Why do they bother with a "Champions League" when half of the teams are Indian. A "Champions League" is supposed to have the best teams from different countries.

[ddb]

http://www.espncricinfo.com/champions-league-twenty20-2012/content/current/story/570875.html

Has to be this way as I said in the other thread, ESPN need more Indian teams playing to justify renewing the deal. This is to prevent its death, probably, or at least not have a too small cut down deal.

Then why have a Champions League? Just have a mini IPL. All the teams Indian. So more money. Problem solved.

Champions League is governed by CSA, CA and BCCI not just BCCI. If most the fans and money comes from India, what do all involved do? I'm not necessarily defending the move, just giving some facts which go missing(I want this to die anyway.) It could have been a better comp maybe if ECB had got involved instead of going with Stanford as Sky might have bought the rights for Eng and market wouldn't have decided most things. The problems probably worsened since India became bad as people may turn off for Indian matches too.

[shankycricket]

I understand that DDB. And not for one second, do I want English teams involved. I'd rather our teams stay away from this nonsense. The thing is that this tournament makes a complete mockery of the term "Champions League" when the champion teams from 5 countries(Eng, NZ, WI, Pak) are made to fight for 2 spots whereas EVEN the 3rd and 4th teams from one country get 2 automatic spots. Thats notwhat you'd call a "Champions League".

[ddb]

But you miss the point, it wouldn't be viable for ESPN at the current rate without that. Some sponsors already pulled out IIRC.

[shankycricket]

I understand that. All I am saying is that this tournament is not worthy of being called "Champions League".

[OffStumpYorker]

The CTL20 is basically a pointless series anyway.

Just turn it into a straight knockout between Previous winner, 4 indian clubs, 2 Aussie, 2 Sa, and 1 from each of the other T20 domestic leagues (WI, BS, SL, NZ, Zim, ENG) which would give you 15 teams, so you could also include the runner up from the previous comeptition or an associate team.

Done right, you are looking at 15 games in total, with 2 games held per day for the first two rounds means you can complete it in 10 days with rest days inbetween.

[shankycricket]

I have a better idea. Just scrap the tournament. Hopefully, ESPN will not renew the contract.

[Making_Splinters]

I like the idea of an inter club event on the global stage, after all where do players come from if not the domestic game. An annual or bi-annual Club World Cup would be a wonderful addition to the schedule.

[rich1uk]

the problem with the champions league is, and always has been, that the same group of high priced t20 specialists end up being involved with the teams who qualify for the event but once the event itself happens can only represent one team, usually being the one with the most money. which means the other sides always end up having to field weakened XIs, on occasion that dont come close to the team that got them there in the first place. this devalues the event as you are not really seeing teams compete on an even footing.

i think it was a couple of years ago that pollard had been part of 4 of the teams that qualified for example.

[Aidan11]

And my above question is a genuine question and not a wind up. Why do they bother with a "Champions League" when half of the teams are Indian. A "Champions League" is supposed to have the best teams from different countries.

It's a bit of a misnomer in football as well. Most of the competing teams aren't champions.

[OffStumpYorker]

the problem with the champions league is, and always has been, that the same group of high priced t20 specialists end up being involved with the teams who qualify for the event but once the event itself happens can only represent one team, usually being the one with the most money. which means the other sides always end up having to field weakened XIs, on occasion that dont come close to the team that got them there in the first place. this devalues the event as you are not really seeing teams compete on an even footing.

i think it was a couple of years ago that pollard had been part of 4 of the teams that qualified for example.

Personally I would say that it should be that a player who plays for a domestic club he is contract thier first if they get through, take Eoin morgan, if he plays for Middlesex and the qualify then he cannot be transfered to the IPL team he plays for if they too qualify for the Champions trophy, no matter how much the IPL team is prepared to pay. As it was Middlesex that have developed him as a cricketer. If Middlesex didnt qualify then he would play for the IPL team.

[OffStumpYorker]

And my above question is a genuine question and not a wind up. Why do they bother with a "Champions League" when half of the teams are Indian. A "Champions League" is supposed to have the best teams from different countries.

It's a bit of a misnomer in football as well. Most of the competing teams aren't champions.

dont agree with that either in the ECL, it should be the Winner of the premier league in each country, not 2nd, 3rd and sometimes 4th.

[rich1uk]

i think that the default is that they do play for their home team but any of the other teams they were part of for the domestic competition can agree to pay the "home team" to get them for the champions league