The enigma that is Kevin Pietersen

[OffStumpYorker]

Ginger, I think there are three issues; IPL , SMS and differences with two coaches, ECB and few players. Sunday will be a key day for KP's career. It is good that he has learned from his mistakes and have not spoken to media since he was dropped.

I think you're right Adi, its more a culmination of everything thats gone on this year, the fines Tweets about Knight, demands that he wanted to focus on T20 and drop ODI's, a fair point about too much cricket (though playing in the IPL didnt help his cause), and the 'unauthorised' press conference after headingly and texts were the last straw.

Lots of things to get into the open, and after the Strauss/Flower meeting theres another one with the team where hes going to have to be as honest with them as he was with strauss and flower.

HFTB , just seen it on cricinfo as well. could be interesting as I'm sure ESPN star will encourage him to be highly critical of england players and games, especially if they lose.

[rich1uk]

care to explain why its provocative ?

lots of current players have worked as pundits when not in squads or when out injured and given pietersen's profile as a t20 player both in his time with england and in the IPL i would think hes ideally positioned to provide comments on the tournament ?

how do you know he hasn't already been given approval by the ECB to do so as well ?

[Gingerfinch]

KP as a pundit, now that would be good.

[hopeforthebest]

care to explain why its provocative ?

lots of current players have worked as pundits when not in squads or when out injured and given pietersen's profile as a t20 player both in his time with england and in the IPL i would think hes ideally positioned to provide comments on the tournament ?

how do you know he hasn't already been given approval by the ECB to do so as well ?

I thought this was a forum on which people can express their opinions, if so that is mine.

[rich1uk]

i just asked you to explain why you think its provocative thats all

no need to get defensive

[OffStumpYorker]

care to explain why its provocative ?

lots of current players have worked as pundits when not in squads or when out injured and given pietersen's profile as a t20 player both in his time with england and in the IPL i would think hes ideally positioned to provide comments on the tournament ?

how do you know he hasn't already been given approval by the ECB to do so as well ?

The provocative could be if hes singles out specific players and is overly critical, and uses the commentating as a way of getting back at those he percieves that have caused the current suituation. Hes not exaclty an engage brain and give a careful response.

In the end Rich, the ECB cant do anything to prevent him, as his central contract would have lapsed at that point, which probably means that hes probably been told hes not getting a central contract for the next 12 months.

To paraphrase Congreve : "hell hath no fury like a Batsman scorned"

[Gingerfinch]

care to explain why its provocative ?

lots of current players have worked as pundits when not in squads or when out injured and given pietersen's profile as a t20 player both in his time with england and in the IPL i would think hes ideally positioned to provide comments on the tournament ?

how do you know he hasn't already been given approval by the ECB to do so as well ?

The provocative could be if hes singles out specific players and is overly critical, and uses the commentating as a way of getting back at those he percieves that have caused the current suituation. Hes not exaclty an engage brain and give a careful response.

In the end Rich, the ECB cant do anything to prevent him, as his central contract would have lapsed at that point, which probably means that hes probably been told hes not getting a central contract for the next 12 months.

To paraphrase Congreve : "hell hath no fury like a Batsman scorned"

On the flip side, he could use it as a chance to over compliment a player. (I hope not)

[rich1uk]

he would have to be extremely stupid to burn his bridges completely like that however

and thats assuming he isn't offered a central contract which isn't guaranteed

and btw if they did refuse him a central contract then i wouldn't blame him if he took a few pot shots as what does he left to lose , the people who dislike him aren't going to change their minds regardless of what he does as proved by this thread

[Arthur Crabtree]

Kevin Pietersen's head turned by IPL: Andy Flower

England coach Andy Flower insists Kevin Pietersen's infatuation with the Indian Premier League played a significant role in the collapse of his international career.

"I think it's fair to say that his issues over being available for the entire IPL have changed his attitude," Flower said.

"I think that was the catalyst for a lot of the stuff. The IPL and the international fixtures in England are an area of conflict. And it will continue to be an area of conflict in the future.

"It would be better if there was a very clear window prior to our international season starting. But it doesn't look like that is an issue that is going to be sorted out in the future, so it may well recur."

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/spor ... 613037.cms

Will a day soon pass where Andy Flower won't make the situation worse by criticising Pietersen to the press?

[OffStumpYorker]

Kevin Pietersen's head turned by IPL: Andy Flower

England coach Andy Flower insists Kevin Pietersen's infatuation with the Indian Premier League played a significant role in the collapse of his international career.

"I think it's fair to say that his issues over being available for the entire IPL have changed his attitude," Flower said.

"I think that was the catalyst for a lot of the stuff. The IPL and the international fixtures in England are an area of conflict. And it will continue to be an area of conflict in the future.

"It would be better if there was a very clear window prior to our international season starting. But it doesn't look like that is an issue that is going to be sorted out in the future, so it may well recur."

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/spor ... 613037.cms

Will a day soon pass where Andy Flower won't make the situation worse by criticising Pietersen to the press?

To be honest AC this is Times of India stiring up trouble and misquoting or rather interpretting what was actually said, in my experience of reading thier articles they dont have a high jouranlistic integrity, in fact they make Sun articles look like a pulitzer prize winners.

I beleive this is where they got thier 'interview' from http://www.espncricinfo.com/england-v-south-africa-2012/content/story/578708.html

The fact that the TOI interview was posted on the 23rd Aug some 2 days AFTER the CI one on the 21st Aug by Dobell really does show they have little if any integrity and are more than likey just stirring up trouble.

[meninblue]

Kevin Pietersen's head turned by IPL: Andy Flower

England coach Andy Flower insists Kevin Pietersen's infatuation with the Indian Premier League played a significant role in the collapse of his international career.

"I think it's fair to say that his issues over being available for the entire IPL have changed his attitude," Flower said.

"I think that was the catalyst for a lot of the stuff. The IPL and the international fixtures in England are an area of conflict. And it will continue to be an area of conflict in the future.

"It would be better if there was a very clear window prior to our international season starting. But it doesn't look like that is an issue that is going to be sorted out in the future, so it may well recur."

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/spor ... 613037.cms

Will a day soon pass where Andy Flower won't make the situation worse by criticising Pietersen to the press?

To be honest AC this is Times of India stiring up trouble and misquoting or rather interpretting what was actually said, in my experience of reading thier articles they dont have a high jouranlistic integrity, in fact they make Sun articles look like a pulitzer prize winners.

I beleive this is where they got thier 'interview' from http://www.espncricinfo.com/england-v-south-africa-2012/content/story/578708.html

The fact that the TOI interview was posted on the 23rd Aug some 2 days AFTER the CI one on the 21st Aug by Dobell really does show they have little if any integrity and are more than likey just stirring up trouble.

TOI has indeed taken it from Cricinfo.

[OffStumpYorker]

How to ToI get away with this, the writing around the edges is a little more slanted than the Original article, they omit the fact that Flower puts his hands up and says that he could possibly have been more proactive interms of thing happening in the dressing room.

[ddb]

Oh they get away with anything.

[shankycricket]

care to explain why its provocative ?

lots of current players have worked as pundits when not in squads or when out injured and given pietersen's profile as a t20 player both in his time with england and in the IPL i would think hes ideally positioned to provide comments on the tournament ?

how do you know he hasn't already been given approval by the ECB to do so as well ?

Because the said poster doesn't like him.

[OffStumpYorker]

care to explain why its provocative ?

lots of current players have worked as pundits when not in squads or when out injured and given pietersen's profile as a t20 player both in his time with england and in the IPL i would think hes ideally positioned to provide comments on the tournament ?

how do you know he hasn't already been given approval by the ECB to do so as well ?

Because the said poster doesn't like him.

I dont like the way KP's behaved this summer, but I can also see KP using this to have unjustified swipes and settling scores with england players, which would definately see the back of him in the international arena.