Alviro Patterson wrote:Increasing the talent pool means a greater chance of finding a top class natural left sided midfielder, a right back better than Glen Johnson, some goalkeepers to seriously challenge Joe Hart and strikers who know where the back of the net is.
Alviro Patterson wrote: With Premier League revenues at £3 Billion as of last season, just earmarking 5% of that for youth development in the Football League and professional Conference Clubs will make a huge difference (£1.562 Million per club, which is probably the average annual salary of one mid-table Premier League side) Obviously award the money through meeting criteria rather than hand the money straight out. In turn clubs who prioritise their youth team get rewarded, the English league pyramid becomes stronger and in 8 years England will win the World Cup in Qatar as aimed for by *modded* van Dyke.
SaintPowelly wrote:Improving grass roots will change sod all, look at players like Luke Shaw, he looks a cert to move to Man United, where he will be in and out of the side and his career will stall.
Jack Rodwell and Adam Johnson are the most recent examples of talented players who have wasted their talents by moving to a "big" club
The divide betwen the top 4/5 sides and the rest is what kills English football.
sussexpob wrote:SaintPowelly wrote:Improving grass roots will change sod all, look at players like Luke Shaw, he looks a cert to move to Man United, where he will be in and out of the side and his career will stall.
Jack Rodwell and Adam Johnson are the most recent examples of talented players who have wasted their talents by moving to a "big" club
The divide betwen the top 4/5 sides and the rest is what kills English football.
Jack Rodwell, Adam Johnson and also Scott Sinclair where signings that Man City made to make sure they could meet the squad quota for English trained youngsters, a quota that just like those provisions suggested, had no provable basis to improve anything, and just like all the other ill conceived suggestions, actually ended up with players being wasted and leaving clubs they could have got time at.
SaintPowelly wrote:Peter Taylor was on Sky the other day, saying how poor some of the players attitudes are about playing for the U21s after already making their debuts.
He didn't mention any names, but that probably needs looking at.
sussexpob wrote:SaintPowelly wrote:Peter Taylor was on Sky the other day, saying how poor some of the players attitudes are about playing for the U21s after already making their debuts.
He didn't mention any names, but that probably needs looking at.
I would think the thing that really needs looking at is why the fa entrusted the job to such a craps manager.
Hard to think why a capped international would nt take the Stevenage town coach serious ly.... Someone who was sacked after a tiny amount if time in the prem.
If we took it seriously, a good manager would earn respect.....craps people dont
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st_brendy wrote:sussexpob wrote:SaintPowelly wrote:Peter Taylor was on Sky the other day, saying how poor some of the players attitudes are about playing for the U21s after already making their debuts.
He didn't mention any names, but that probably needs looking at.
I would think the thing that really needs looking at is why the fa entrusted the job to such a craps manager.
Hard to think why a capped international would nt take the Stevenage town coach serious ly.... Someone who was sacked after a tiny amount if time in the prem.
If we took it seriously, a good manager would earn respect.....craps people dont
Tbf to the FA, Southgate at the moment is probably one of the best they could have got. Manager of the England U21 team is really not a job that is going to attract a manager with any sort of CV worth talking about.
I don't even think the likes of Steve Bruce and Big Sam would be attracted by that job (even if they were unemployed).
Let us look at some good performers thus far in this World Cup - Holland and Belgium. Their leagues are not the strongest, indeed wasn't the last Dutch Champs League semi-finalist PSV before Park Ji Sung joined United? However they arguably have two of the strongest teams in Europe. They sell their players, often to England, Spain, Germany, Italy etc. they know that their youths will have a short formative career in their country of origin before moving abroad and they focus on academies to build a next generation at any given moment. Perhaps the best British example of this in recent years is Southampton. In these countries it is the norm. Even Germany sells players albeit with a dominant two or three sides in their country doing the buying but they produce talent through an effective academy system.
sussexpob wrote:Alviro Patterson wrote:Increasing the talent pool means a greater chance of finding a top class natural left sided midfielder, a right back better than Glen Johnson, some goalkeepers to seriously challenge Joe Hart and strikers who know where the back of the net is.
Increasing the talent pool? England has the most professional leagues in the world, players who arent getting into premiership teams are still playing competitive football at other levels.....
sussexpob wrote:Let us look at some good performers thus far in this World Cup - Holland and Belgium. Their leagues are not the strongest, indeed wasn't the last Dutch Champs League semi-finalist PSV before Park Ji Sung joined United? However they arguably have two of the strongest teams in Europe. They sell their players, often to England, Spain, Germany, Italy etc. they know that their youths will have a short formative career in their country of origin before moving abroad and they focus on academies to build a next generation at any given moment. Perhaps the best British example of this in recent years is Southampton. In these countries it is the norm. Even Germany sells players albeit with a dominant two or three sides in their country doing the buying but they produce talent through an effective academy system.
Holland's youth system has been lauded as the best system in the world in the history of football, in fact people have copied that academy system in the modern game. How have they done in World Cup's since their 1970's golden years?
Didnt qualify for a world cup in the 1980's....... Only qualified for the 1990 Second round based on drawing alot as third placed team, after drawing with Ireland and Egypt. In 1994 they qualified from the group on goal difference and got blasted out by Brazil. In 1998 their golden generation, one of the pre-tournament favourites, flattered to decieve. In 2002 they didnt qualify. In 2006 they were knocked out in the 2nd round....Doesnt seem like their system has produced much. Their 2010 team were disgusting, and fouled teams to death all tournament. Last week they were lucky to beat Australia, and Van Persie should have been sent off, then won them the game.....
Belgium havent qualified for 12 years, and have never gone past the second round more than once, in 1986, in their history..... not really a bench mark
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sussexpob wrote:So you base the whole structure of English football on copying a team that near lost to Australia this week, and one that laboured to wins against Algeria and Russia?
The masterplan should be based on two international games? Both teams could be out this time next week, so do we then revert to copying another team in the Quarter Finals?
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