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Re: Kevin Pietersen's Autobiography.

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Mon Oct 06, 2014 12:30 pm

Dr Robert wrote:I find it all a bit childish, tbh. I can sort of see why KP wants to tell his side, but this is a man who sent text messages about his own captain to an opposition captain. I won't be buying the book.


No one knows the truth of that, or even if KP mentioned Strauss in the texts. The ECB accepted KP's word that there was nothing defamatory in them. Those texts haven't been seen outside of the SA dressing room, and they leaked their existence, arguably to their own ends. Pietersen says he called Strauss a doos in conversation with SA players.

I feel sympathetic towards KP (some would say predictably). He lost the captaincy when the ECB leaked a document they asked him to write. The dressing room started taking the piss out of him with the fake KP id. He took solace in two SA players who were in his IPL side. And then they went to the press with his complaints! No doubt KP was in the wrong, but how many of us would look bad if friends revealed our private thoughts about the workplace. Or would strike out if pressured as KP was by the ECB that summer.
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Re: Kevin Pietersen's Autobiography.

Postby Gingerfinch » Mon Oct 06, 2014 12:32 pm

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Dr Robert wrote:I find it all a bit childish, tbh. I can sort of see why KP wants to tell his side, but this is a man who sent text messages about his own captain to an opposition captain. I won't be buying the book.


No one knows the truth of that, or even if KP mentioned Strauss in the texts. The ECB accepted KP's word that there was nothing defamatory in them. Those texts haven't been seen outside of the SA dressing room, and they leaked their existence, arguably to their own ends. Pietersen says he called Strauss a doos in conversation with SA players.

I feel sympathetic towards KP (some would say predictably). He lost the captaincy when the ECB leaked a document they asked him to write. The dressing room started taking the piss out of him with the fake KP id. He took solace in two SA players who were in his IPL side. And then they went to the press with his complaints! No doubt KP was in the wrong, but how many of us would look bad if friends revealed our private thoughts about the workplace. Or would strike out if pressured as KP was by the ECB that summer.


I can see both sides, and I'd be the first to stick up for myself if I thought I had be wronged. I'm still not buying the book though :-)
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Re: Kevin Pietersen's Autobiography.

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Mon Oct 06, 2014 12:38 pm

Aidan11 wrote:I won't buy the book either, but I get the feeling I won't need to.

Some of the dirty washing is coming out already.


You won't have to. Just stay on this thread...

By the way, the ECB sacked him, and Downton, Cook and the usual journalists all publicly criticised him and called into question how he will be remembered. Under those circumstances, it's pretty natural for him to tell his version of events. He's been besmirched by the UK press for a long time. That rehabilitation process before the India series was a humiliation. Time for his right to reply.
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Re: Kevin Pietersen's Autobiography.

Postby hopeforthebest » Mon Oct 06, 2014 1:31 pm

Arthur Crabtree wrote:
Aidan11 wrote:I won't buy the book either, but I get the feeling I won't need to.

Some of the dirty washing is coming out already.


You won't have to. Just stay on this thread...

By the way, the ECB sacked him, and Downton, Cook and the usual journalists all publicly criticised him and called into question how he will be remembered. Under those circumstances, it's pretty natural for him to tell his version of events. He's been besmirched by the UK press for a long time. That rehabilitation process before the India series was a humiliation. Time for his right to reply.


That's all very well AC but have you not considered he's in fact just in it for the money. If he simply wishes to put the record straight why agree to wait 6 months to speak out except they made it worth his while with a bundle of cash.
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Re: Kevin Pietersen's Autobiography.

Postby KipperJohn » Mon Oct 06, 2014 1:46 pm

If you are treated 'unfairly' in your employment, you wouldn't normally negotiate a contract settlement, with a limited confidentiality clause, then write an autobiography (which this is clearly not anyway).

KP must have done aright financially out of the negotiations around his contract. If he thought it all unfair he had the option to be sacked or to resign, claim unfair dismissal and go to an employment tribunal.

Sorry, but writing a book about 'it' doesn't cut it with me at all- unfair treatment should be dealt with by the due process of employment law.

Both sides - the ECB and KP - don't come out of this at all well - to the detriment of English cricket and those who support and pay for it.
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Re: Kevin Pietersen's Autobiography.

Postby Aidan11 » Mon Oct 06, 2014 2:05 pm

I'm for anything that would get rid of Giles Clarke.

Sadly I don't think this book will do it.
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Re: Kevin Pietersen's Autobiography.

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Mon Oct 06, 2014 3:02 pm

KP was sacked. His contract was terminated and he reached a financial settlement. Part of the agreement was that neither side would talk about their relationship for six months.

I'm hoping those involved will learn something from what KP has to say, so, some good may come of it. And if the public find that the press have been the ECB mouthpiece for the past few years, leaking information advantageous to them, detrimental to others, without naming a source, then more good may come there too.
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Re: Kevin Pietersen's Autobiography.

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Mon Oct 06, 2014 3:10 pm

Aidan11 wrote:I'm for anything that would get rid of Giles Clarke.

Sadly I don't think this book will do it.


And Downton, Flower and Moores. Clarke is moving on soon anyway.

Strangely Cook is doing ok out of it.
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Re: Kevin Pietersen's Autobiography.

Postby Aidan11 » Mon Oct 06, 2014 3:12 pm

I wonder how Brearley would have handled KP had he been around today.
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Re: Kevin Pietersen's Autobiography.

Postby Aidan11 » Mon Oct 06, 2014 3:14 pm

The other big question is will the book generate news big enough this week to get a question on Have I Got News For You & 8 Out Of 10 Cats?
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Re: Kevin Pietersen's Autobiography.

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Mon Oct 06, 2014 3:15 pm

Aidan11 wrote:I wonder how Brearley would have handled KP had he been around today.

Vaughan, Fletch and Colly managed well enough.
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Re: Kevin Pietersen's Autobiography.

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Mon Oct 06, 2014 3:21 pm

Journos are starting to tweet about the book, so maybe bn can give us some insights now?
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Re: Kevin Pietersen's Autobiography.

Postby Aidan11 » Mon Oct 06, 2014 3:29 pm

KP is quiet on Twitter today.
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Re: Kevin Pietersen's Autobiography.

Postby hopeforthebest » Mon Oct 06, 2014 3:41 pm

Arthur Crabtree wrote:KP was sacked. His contract was terminated and he reached a financial settlement. Part of the agreement was that neither side would talk about their relationship for six months.

I'm hoping those involved will learn something from what KP has to say, so, some good may come of it. And if the public find that the press have been the ECB mouthpiece for the past few years, leaking information advantageous to them, detrimental to others, without naming a source, then more good may come there too.


Legally he wasn't sacked, his contract was terminated by mutual agreement and KP came out of it rather well.
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Re: Kevin Pietersen's Autobiography.

Postby braveneutral » Mon Oct 06, 2014 4:01 pm

Arthur Crabtree wrote:Journos are starting to tweet about the book, so maybe bn can give us some insights now?

All I can say so far is that Cook is coming out well but this is because he is referred to by picture code in the book which has not yet been broken.

When I am on a more friendly device I can attach said image but it is said to be a cartoon character from a long running American show with a similar name.
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