Kevin Pietersen's Autobiography.

[Arthur Crabtree]

Biltongbek posted about liking CDB. Must be more than one.

[braveneutral]

Biltongbek posted about liking CDB. Must be more than one.

Oh I thought you meant the poster CDB. My mistake. That name change was fl related I reckon.

[hopeforthebest]

Apologies if anyone is called John.

It's fine. I say it in front of my parents.

You call both your parents John?

I think they John and Marsha.

[Making_Splinters]

I can't really believe anyone is still attempting to either exonerate or condemm KP based on the use of the phrase "doos". The context and content of those messages has never been fully revealed, any curse can be given in many different contexts, which can mean a myriad of different things in different social enviroments.

Flay him for sending the texts in the first place, but the back and forth over a single word is nonsensical.

I'd refer anyone on this issue back to Smith's comments reported in the Grauniad, where he explicitly stated that a tactic South Africa employed on their tour to England was to try and turn the England players against each other. They did a fairly stellar job of it.

[Arthur Crabtree]

Says he didn't say it anyway.

[Gingerfinch]

Back to cricket. Wasn't KP a spinning all-rounder when he first came to England? Most if not all great batsmen started off as batsmen, but not him by all accounts.

[Making_Splinters]

Says he didn't say it anyway.

Regardless of the exact wording, he shouldn't have been sending critical texts to the opposition in the first place. Sadly that simple fact has been lost in the endless bickering over a single word.

[braveneutral]

Broad was a batter.

[Making_Splinters]

Back to cricket. Wasn't KP a spinning all-rounder when he first came to England? Most if not all great batsmen started off as batsmen, but not him by all accounts.

Athers started off as a leg spinner.

It's complete nonsense however that KP was not a more than capable batsman when he arrived in England, he made 92 in his first ever game in England for Warks.

[Making_Splinters]

Broad was a batter.

As was Swann, it's pretty common for bowler's to have been front line batsmen at the lower levels.

[Gingerfinch]

Back to cricket. Wasn't KP a spinning all-rounder when he first came to England? Most if not all great batsmen started off as batsmen, but not him by all accounts.

Athers started off as a leg spinner.

It's complete nonsense however that KP was not a more than capable batsman when he arrived in England, he made 92 in his first ever game in England for Warks.

But athers was never a great batsman. Didn't KP bat at nine for his saffa side?

[Arthur Crabtree]

He played against England in a warm up on the 2000 tour. Scored 50 batting at eight, and was the main spinner.

[Making_Splinters]

Back to cricket. Wasn't KP a spinning all-rounder when he first came to England? Most if not all great batsmen started off as batsmen, but not him by all accounts.

Athers started off as a leg spinner.

It's complete nonsense however that KP was not a more than capable batsman when he arrived in England, he made 92 in his first ever game in England for Warks.

But athers was never a great batsman. Didn't KP bat at nine for his saffa side?

He did, but he was good enough to be batting in the middle order when he turned up in England. In his first full season in England he averaged 57 with the bat.

[braveneutral]

FWIW Shiv Thakor was a three at lowest.

[Gingerfinch]

Back to cricket. Wasn't KP a spinning all-rounder when he first came to England? Most if not all great batsmen started off as batsmen, but not him by all accounts.

Athers started off as a leg spinner.

It's complete nonsense however that KP was not a more than capable batsman when he arrived in England, he made 92 in his first ever game in England for Warks.

But athers was never a great batsman. Didn't KP bat at nine for his saffa side?

He did, but he was good enough to be batting in the middle order when he turned up in England. In his first full season in England he averaged 57 with the bat.

Was that at Notts? They obviously saw something that the his south african side missed.