WI tour of South Africa

[sussexpob]

its been another masterclass from AB!! Guy is a machine!

He profits from the fact that bowlers very rarely bowl to him well. Break down his game, and you find he isnt that great at defending his stumps. I would hazard a guess that his dismissal ratio to bowled or LBW would be exceedingly high, possibly one of the highest of players who have played that many tests, and also incredibly high for batsman who could be considered a great player.

Interestingly, before people knew him they just bowled at his stumps and he struggled. Since he has shown he likes to play shots, and is a demon stroke maker (arguably, the best in living memory of any player who attacks the ball), bowlers have stupidly thought they can get him out caught, and his career has taken off.

I dont think ABDV would have survived had his career begun 10 years before in an era of better fast bowling. I think he also struggles at times with spinners, who really attack him and dont just bowl flatter to negate him.

His test record :

How out Number
bowled 29
caught 88
lbw 20
not out 16
run out 5
stumped 3
Total 161

So about a 35% ratio of dismissals are failing to defend his stumps properly. I think that about 5-8% higher than the average, but that average is also inclusive of all batsman regardless of postition, and my guess would be that tailenders get out to bowled or lbw far higher than top 6 batsman.

[Making_Splinters]

Bit silly from AB, 90 odd run lead.

[SaintPowelly]

its been another masterclass from AB!! Guy is a machine!

He profits from the fact that bowlers very rarely bowl to him well. Break down his game, and you find he isnt that great at defending his stumps. I would hazard a guess that his dismissal ratio to bowled or LBW would be exceedingly high, possibly one of the highest of players who have played that many tests, and also incredibly high for batsman who could be considered a great player.

Interestingly, before people knew him they just bowled at his stumps and he struggled. Since he has shown he likes to play shots, and is a demon stroke maker (arguably, the best in living memory of any player who attacks the ball), bowlers have stupidly thought they can get him out caught, and his career has taken off.

I dont think ABDV would have survived had his career begun 10 years before in an era of better fast bowling. I think he also struggles at times with spinners, who really attack him and dont just bowl flatter to negate him.

His test record :

How out Number
bowled 29
caught 88
lbw 20
not out 16
run out 5
stumped 3
Total 161

So about a 35% ratio of dismissals are failing to defend his stumps properly. I think that about 5-8% higher than the average, but that average is also inclusive of all batsman regardless of postition, and my guess would be that tailenders get out to bowled or lbw far higher than top 6 batsman.

I wasn't disagreeing with you ( although I do think he would of had success 10 years ago ), just pointing out the stats.

[meninblue]

its been another masterclass from AB!! Guy is a machine!

He profits from the fact that bowlers very rarely bowl to him well. Break down his game, and you find he isnt that great at defending his stumps. I would hazard a guess that his dismissal ratio to bowled or LBW would be exceedingly high, possibly one of the highest of players who have played that many tests, and also incredibly high for batsman who could be considered a great player.

Interestingly, before people knew him they just bowled at his stumps and he struggled. Since he has shown he likes to play shots, and is a demon stroke maker (arguably, the best in living memory of any player who attacks the ball), bowlers have stupidly thought they can get him out caught, and his career has taken off.

I dont think ABDV would have survived had his career begun 10 years before in an era of better fast bowling. I think he also struggles at times with spinners, who really attack him and dont just bowl flatter to negate him.

His test record :

How out Number
bowled 29
caught 88
lbw 20
not out 16
run out 5
stumped 3
Total 161

So about a 35% ratio of dismissals are failing to defend his stumps properly. I think that about 5-8% higher than the average, but that average is also inclusive of all batsman regardless of postition, and my guess would be that tailenders get out to bowled or lbw far higher than top 6 batsman.

161 dismissals and 29 bowled. Bowled percentage works out to 18%. How 35% you calculate

[sussexpob]

161 dismissals and 29 bowled. Bowled percentage works out to 18%. How 35% you calculate

I set the criteria of lbw and bowled, not just bowled.... and you obviously have to less his not outs, because they are not dismissals. Ends up being 50 in 145 essentially innings, compared to 88 caught.

That is a high percentage.

I wasn't disagreeing with you ( although I do think he would of had success 10 years ago ), just pointing out the stats.

I wasnt saying you were disagreeing, I was just working out form your stats whether or not my opinion had truth.

Tbf, I would have expected a ratio higher.

[shankycricket]

Bavuma has no place in a Test side.

Yeah, without wishing to open a can of worms, looks like a quota pick to me.

[sussexpob]

Bavuma has no place in a Test side.

Yeah, without wishing to open a can of worms, looks like a quota pick to me.

Ill let you take the reigns on that point. A few years back when I dared to suggest a few players in SA's team were quota picks, I got an absolute shelling.

[meninblue]

its been another masterclass from AB!! Guy is a machine!

He profits from the fact that bowlers very rarely bowl to him well. Break down his game, and you find he isnt that great at defending his stumps. I would hazard a guess that his dismissal ratio to bowled or LBW would be exceedingly high, possibly one of the highest of players who have played that many tests, and also incredibly high for batsman who could be considered a great player.

Interestingly, before people knew him they just bowled at his stumps and he struggled. Since he has shown he likes to play shots, and is a demon stroke maker (arguably, the best in living memory of any player who attacks the ball), bowlers have stupidly thought they can get him out caught, and his career has taken off.

I dont think ABDV would have survived had his career begun 10 years before in an era of better fast bowling. I think he also struggles at times with spinners, who really attack him and dont just bowl flatter to negate him.

His test record :

How out Number
bowled 29
caught 88
lbw 20
not out 16
run out 5
stumped 3
Total 161

So about a 35% ratio of dismissals are failing to defend his stumps properly. I think that about 5-8% higher than the average, but that average is also inclusive of all batsman regardless of postition, and my guess would be that tailenders get out to bowled or lbw far higher than top 6 batsman.

161 dismissals and 29 bowled. Bowled percentage works out to 18%. How 35% you calculate

I see.

Just checked that his average is 51 So in top most category players overall career wise.

[sussexpob]

Bavuma has no place in a Test side.

Yeah, without wishing to open a can of worms, looks like a quota pick to me.

Just out of interest, what political point or quota system is keeping Benn in the Windies side? There must be one, surely/

[andy]

Bavuma shouldn;t be in that test side, he isn;t good enough...also he should defo be batting below Van Zyl!!!!

[Aidan11]

WIs kept SA's lead below 100.

24 overs left for WIs to be back in credit tonight.


A draw is still the least likely result.

[Aidan11]

Smith goes and spoils it.

[mikesiva]

Smith goes and spoils it.

Devon Smith out for seven...well, that's the end of his comeback.

[Aidan11]

Brathwaite gone now.

[mikesiva]

Brathwaite gone now.

How many wickets will we lose in erasing the deficit?