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Re: The enigma that is Kevin Pietersen

Postby Dr Cricket » Mon May 11, 2015 11:21 pm

Arthur Crabtree wrote:KP won't be with a county though. I obviously don't know how this works, but I read that whatever money Surrey paid went to a charity.

yeah that is apparently true, So KP can show he not doing it for the Money.
TBH I highly doubt Surrey were paying him much no way can they afford his wages and be under the Salary cap.

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Re: The enigma that is Kevin Pietersen

Postby SaintPowelly » Mon May 11, 2015 11:21 pm

Making_Splinters wrote:
SaintPowelly wrote:Remember it was KP sending texts about Strauss that kickstarted the problems, did anyone really expect Strauss to give him a lifeline ??


Did anyone expect Strauss to put cricket before personal politics on his first day as part of the management? Not really.

It is impossible these days to expect any of the ECB to act in a professional manner rather than just slinging, "But he did it first" like the school children they are.


Again, KP alienated himself by writing the book, which could of easily waited until retirement.
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Re: The enigma that is Kevin Pietersen

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Mon May 11, 2015 11:22 pm

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SaintPowelly wrote:Remember it was KP sending texts about Strauss that kickstarted the problems, did anyone really expect Strauss to give him a lifeline ??


:thumb


Not sure the revenge narrative helps Strauss here. Especially as it is based on texts he has never read, and content he is unaware of beyond the word 'doos', which happened two years ago, and about which he has accepted an apology. I don't think Strauss is acting on this. At least I hope not. KP was humiliated enough through the truth and reconciliation process that got him back in the team for India. He was cleansed, and got back in the team. The dead sea texts surely can't be relevant here. It would make Strauss look very bitter.
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Re: The enigma that is Kevin Pietersen

Postby SaintPowelly » Mon May 11, 2015 11:24 pm

Arthur Crabtree wrote:
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SaintPowelly wrote:Remember it was KP sending texts about Strauss that kickstarted the problems, did anyone really expect Strauss to give him a lifeline ??


:thumb


Not sure the revenge narrative helps Strauss here. Especially as it is based on texts he has never read, and content he is unaware of beyond the word 'doos', which happened two years ago, and about which he has accepted an apology. I don't think Strauss is acting on this. At least I hope not. KP was humiliated enough through the truth and reconciliation process that got him back in the team for India. He was cleansed, and got back in the team. The dead sea texts surely can't be relevant here. It would make Strauss look very bitter.


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Re: The enigma that is Kevin Pietersen

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Re: The enigma that is Kevin Pietersen

Postby Dr Cricket » Mon May 11, 2015 11:25 pm

SaintPowelly wrote:
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SaintPowelly wrote:Remember it was KP sending texts about Strauss that kickstarted the problems, did anyone really expect Strauss to give him a lifeline ??

Yep, we all know what Strauss thought of KP last year.

Shame Strauss couldn't put his differences aside for the good of the team but this was to be expected i guess.


Good of what team ?? They'd have to re-build a team that want to play with KP. Cook,Broad and Anderson certainly wouldn't, and I wouldn't be surprised if others don't like him either.


But it would surely be better for the Team if the KP saga was finished and not started.
Imagine this 2 week before today no one even cared or mention KP, but soon as word started getting around KP gonna get sacked guess what everyone talking about the man.
ECB/Strauss should have trust on his players doing well and not needing to pick or even mention KP.

it is quite difficult for him to even get to the test team, but they should have left the door open so the saga is finished.
Let kp do what ever he wants.
ECB dictating terms just makes it worse.

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Re: The enigma that is Kevin Pietersen

Postby Dr Cricket » Mon May 11, 2015 11:27 pm


Not surprise about this.
Strauss is surely a smart man and knows he can't make a decision like this and everything will be fine.
He probably gonna wait till the Ashes are over before making a decision.

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Re: The enigma that is Kevin Pietersen

Postby Making_Splinters » Mon May 11, 2015 11:28 pm

SaintPowelly wrote:
Making_Splinters wrote:
SaintPowelly wrote:Remember it was KP sending texts about Strauss that kickstarted the problems, did anyone really expect Strauss to give him a lifeline ??


Did anyone expect Strauss to put cricket before personal politics on his first day as part of the management? Not really.

It is impossible these days to expect any of the ECB to act in a professional manner rather than just slinging, "But he did it first" like the school children they are.


Again, KP alienated himself by writing the book, which could of easily waited until retirement.


"But he did it first". Works when you're 8, not when you are supposed to be the face of a national cricket board.

As I've oft pointed out, if you look at the two greatest teams of the modern era - the Windies and Austrailians - their dressing rooms were full of players who despised each other.

Strange how a fifth ranked Test side who can't even beat a weak West Indies side find the dressing room more important than performance, but sides that dominated the world didn't give two shits about if they got on with each other.

Only disfunctional boards - WICB, PCB and ZCB - put huge ownership on personallity, the top sides just want to see the best players on the field. The ECB seems to have picked the wrong path to follow shown up their results.
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Re: The enigma that is Kevin Pietersen

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Mon May 11, 2015 11:29 pm

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Would you do someone a favor that treated you like that ?


I don't see it as a favour, really. Strauss needs to do a good job and get out of the way of personal antagonism. He was hardly guiltless himself.
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Re: The enigma that is Kevin Pietersen

Postby Dr Cricket » Mon May 11, 2015 11:31 pm

TBH they making PCB/WICB look good.
PCB have generally been decent since the moron Butt went.

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Re: The enigma that is Kevin Pietersen

Postby Dr Cricket » Mon May 11, 2015 11:33 pm

Arthur Crabtree wrote:
SaintPowelly wrote:
Would you do someone a favor that treated you like that ?


I don't see it as a favour, really. Strauss needs to do a good job and get out of the way of personal antagonism. He was hardly guiltless himself.

it not exactly a favor considering KP might or probably won't get picked, just telling him 100% he not playing again is a bad PR move and stupid.
just let result/performance dictate selection.

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Re: The enigma that is Kevin Pietersen

Postby Dr Cricket » Mon May 11, 2015 11:34 pm

Someone checkout Innocent Bystander Tweet.
Lol he making it sound like a soap in Eastender and Dallas.

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Re: The enigma that is Kevin Pietersen

Postby m@tt » Mon May 11, 2015 11:35 pm

Fuming. Though half an hour ago my predominant feeling was sadness - sadness that this decision had to happen and that we'll now definitely not see Pietersen play for (or in) England again.

I can't understand it. Strauss better have a bloody good reason.
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Re: The enigma that is Kevin Pietersen

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Mon May 11, 2015 11:37 pm

SaintPowelly wrote:
Making_Splinters wrote:
SaintPowelly wrote:Remember it was KP sending texts about Strauss that kickstarted the problems, did anyone really expect Strauss to give him a lifeline ??


Did anyone expect Strauss to put cricket before personal politics on his first day as part of the management? Not really.

It is impossible these days to expect any of the ECB to act in a professional manner rather than just slinging, "But he did it first" like the school children they are.


Again, KP alienated himself by writing the book, which could of easily waited until retirement.


He was retired. His career was buried. Graves resurrected it, after the book.

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Re: The enigma that is Kevin Pietersen

Postby Making_Splinters » Mon May 11, 2015 11:37 pm

bhaveshgor wrote:TBH they making PCB/WICB look good.
PCB have generally been decent since the moron Butt went.


True enough, though I've still not forgiven them for robbing the game of Yousuf, that era was horrific to watch.
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