The Ashes 5th Test. The Oval. August 20-24.

India in SL ,Pak in Eng, Bang in Oz

Re: The Ashes 5th Test. The Oval. August 20-24.

Postby The Waugh Twins » Wed Aug 19, 2015 3:58 pm

Yep I agree Sussex and Oz should do something similar.

If they were willing to drop Haddin in the fashion they did then they should have the 8@!!5 to drop Clarke. It sounds harsh, but to say he is a walking wicket goes without question.

When I think back to how hard they tried to get rid of Steve Waugh and he kept stuffing it in their faces it comes to light just how odd these selectors can be.
User avatar
The Waugh Twins
 
Posts: 6264
Joined: Mon Nov 08, 2010 8:14 pm
Team(s) Supported: United, Giants, Yankees, Galaxy, Oz cricket, CollyWobles

Re: The Ashes 5th Test. The Oval. August 20-24.

Postby backfootpunch » Wed Aug 19, 2015 3:59 pm

sussexpob wrote:The series has been won, but there are a number of question marks on the team leading from this test, especially the main spinner role and at opener.

Id like to see England make 4 changes for this test, but obviously we are so wrapped up in inflicting pointless extra misery on the Aussies for Cook's Cult of Personality needs, and the ECB's.

Cook himself should stand aside and make room for another opener to stake his claim. I would have given Hales a go.
Root has nothing to prove, get Taylor in for a test.
Mo Ali will tour UAE without a doubt, but should he fail it would be nice to test Rashid out now.
Id rest Broad (and Anderson, but thats happening) and give someone like Rushworth or someone else....a cap to prove he can bowl at this level, as in South Africa, an all seam attack might be likely needed.


i would hope that broad will be rested during the ODI series

i would imagine he would not be very happy at all if they tried to rest him from this test match
2011 pak vs sl odi fantasy guru 2012 Pak vs SL test fantasy guru
2012 NZ vs SA test fantasy guru 2015 Australia vs NZ test fantasy guru
2012 masters golf fantasy guru 2015 New Zealand vs Sri Lanka combined fantasy guru
2011/12 premier league(external) fantasy guru
2012 Eng vs WI test fanstasy guru
euro 2012 (external) fantasy league guru

"I'll tell you what pressure is. Pressure is a Messerschmitt up your arse. Playing cricket is not."- Keith Miller
backfootpunch
 
Posts: 6198
Joined: Sat May 14, 2011 5:25 pm
Team(s) Supported: england, warwickshire, birmingham city

Re: The Ashes 5th Test. The Oval. August 20-24.

Postby from_the_stands » Wed Aug 19, 2015 5:29 pm

Broad will definitely play at the Oval. He doesn't need a rest. He's just had a week and a half off, and he only bowled a few overs in the last match. Can't see any changes for England in this last Test.
"Hey, doll. Could you scare up another round for our table over here? And tell the cook this is low grade dog food. I've had better food at the ballgame, you know? This steak still has marks from where the jockey was hitting it." Al Czervik, aka Rodney Dangerfield in "Caddyshack" (1980)

2009 India vs SL ODI prediction guru
2010 Australia vs Pakistan Test Prediction guru
2012 Big Bash fantasy guru
2013 Big Bash fantasy guru
2017 IPL fantasy guru
User avatar
from_the_stands
 
Posts: 9848
Joined: Fri Sep 11, 2009 9:54 pm
Location: Pandora
Team(s) Supported: Aussie cricket team, Liverpool FC (it's a long story) and the mighty blue boys in the AFL. I like watching good teams performing well. An advid fan of the Olympic Games. Looking forward to Rio in 2016 & Tokyo in 2020!

Re: The Ashes 5th Test. The Oval. August 20-24.

Postby Aidan11 » Wed Aug 19, 2015 5:50 pm

I'd be upset if Broad didn't play at The Oval.

He won the match in the first session of the last test. Not saying he'll do it again but you don't drop the heroes.
2010 Ind v Oz fantasy league
2011-12 internal Prem footy prediction league
2012 US Open Golf Prediction league
2012 Eng vs WI ODIs fantasy league
2012 TV Cup Winner
2012 CC Final Placings Prediction league
2014 Eng v India Test FL
2014 Royal London One Day Cup FL
2014 Ryder Cup FL
2015 Ashes Test FL
2015 County Championship Division 1 FL
2016 SA v Eng Test FL
2016 Eng v SL Test FL
2016 Eng v SL ODI FL
2022 County Championship Div 2 FL
2023 County Championship Div 2 FL
User avatar
Aidan11
 
Posts: 48590
Joined: Thu Sep 02, 2010 7:38 pm
Team(s) Supported: Durham CCC, Hartlepool United

Re: The Ashes 5th Test. The Oval. August 20-24.

Postby backfootpunch » Wed Aug 19, 2015 5:53 pm

Aidan11 wrote:I'd be upset if Broad didn't play at The Oval.

He won the match in the first session of the last test. Not saying he'll do it again but you don't drop the heroes.


With the way the aussies have been batting he hasn't bowled too many overs in the last two tests either
2011 pak vs sl odi fantasy guru 2012 Pak vs SL test fantasy guru
2012 NZ vs SA test fantasy guru 2015 Australia vs NZ test fantasy guru
2012 masters golf fantasy guru 2015 New Zealand vs Sri Lanka combined fantasy guru
2011/12 premier league(external) fantasy guru
2012 Eng vs WI test fanstasy guru
euro 2012 (external) fantasy league guru

"I'll tell you what pressure is. Pressure is a Messerschmitt up your arse. Playing cricket is not."- Keith Miller
backfootpunch
 
Posts: 6198
Joined: Sat May 14, 2011 5:25 pm
Team(s) Supported: england, warwickshire, birmingham city

Re: The Ashes 5th Test. The Oval. August 20-24.

Postby Aidan11 » Wed Aug 19, 2015 5:56 pm

2010 Ind v Oz fantasy league
2011-12 internal Prem footy prediction league
2012 US Open Golf Prediction league
2012 Eng vs WI ODIs fantasy league
2012 TV Cup Winner
2012 CC Final Placings Prediction league
2014 Eng v India Test FL
2014 Royal London One Day Cup FL
2014 Ryder Cup FL
2015 Ashes Test FL
2015 County Championship Division 1 FL
2016 SA v Eng Test FL
2016 Eng v SL Test FL
2016 Eng v SL ODI FL
2022 County Championship Div 2 FL
2023 County Championship Div 2 FL
User avatar
Aidan11
 
Posts: 48590
Joined: Thu Sep 02, 2010 7:38 pm
Team(s) Supported: Durham CCC, Hartlepool United

Re: The Ashes 5th Test. The Oval. August 20-24.

Postby sussexpob » Wed Aug 19, 2015 6:00 pm

Aidan11 wrote:I'd be upset if Broad didn't play at The Oval.

He won the match in the first session of the last test. Not saying he'll do it again but you don't drop the heroes.


This series has nothing to settle. Broad has been playing a lot since January, with the Tri Series, the World Cup, Windies tours, straight into a long summer with 7 tests and associated games. He has a history of breaking down with niggles too. Why risk him in a glorified friendly dead rubber game when England have huge challenges ahead?

After all, Wood has broken down this series, Ali's place is hardly safe, Anderson is currently injured and on his last tour Finn was reduced to bowling to cardboard cut outs..... another injury could screw the winter up badly, so why risk it.
2010 French Open fantasy league guru 2010 Wimbledon fantasy league guru 2014 Masters golf fantasy guru 2015 Players Championship FL Guru 2016 Masters Golf Fantasy Guru

And a hat and bra to you too, my good sirs!
sussexpob
 
Posts: 40270
Joined: Sun Jan 24, 2010 5:14 pm
Location: Brussels, Belgium
Team(s) Supported: Sussex and England Cricket, Vålerenga Fotball/FC Barcelona/Seagulls! ....
England and Norway at everything else

Re: The Ashes 5th Test. The Oval. August 20-24.

Postby backfootpunch » Wed Aug 19, 2015 6:00 pm

Aidan11 wrote:Cummins for Josh according to this

http://www.foxsports.com.au/cricket/the ... 7489539061

A pace attack of Cummins, Starc and Johnson seems a big risk

Very much an all or nothing bowling attack, no one who is going to bowl long accurate spells
2011 pak vs sl odi fantasy guru 2012 Pak vs SL test fantasy guru
2012 NZ vs SA test fantasy guru 2015 Australia vs NZ test fantasy guru
2012 masters golf fantasy guru 2015 New Zealand vs Sri Lanka combined fantasy guru
2011/12 premier league(external) fantasy guru
2012 Eng vs WI test fanstasy guru
euro 2012 (external) fantasy league guru

"I'll tell you what pressure is. Pressure is a Messerschmitt up your arse. Playing cricket is not."- Keith Miller
backfootpunch
 
Posts: 6198
Joined: Sat May 14, 2011 5:25 pm
Team(s) Supported: england, warwickshire, birmingham city

Re: The Ashes 5th Test. The Oval. August 20-24.

Postby dan08 » Wed Aug 19, 2015 6:16 pm

backfootpunch wrote:
Aidan11 wrote:Cummins for Josh according to this

http://www.foxsports.com.au/cricket/the ... 7489539061

A pace attack of Cummins, Starc and Johnson seems a big risk

Very much an all or nothing bowling attack, no one who is going to bowl long accurate spells

I presume Mitchell Marsh or Watson will come in as you can't have Cummins in a four man attack.
2011 Sri Lanka v Australia ODI FL guru
2011 India v West Indies ODI FL guru
2012 Bangladesh Premier League T20 FL guru
2012 West Indies v New Zealand Test FL guru
2012 Sri Lanka Premier League T20 FL guru
2012 India v England Test FL guru
2014 Australian Open Tennis FL guru
2014 Australia v England T20 FL guru
2017 ICC Champions Trophy FL guru
User avatar
dan08
 
Posts: 19340
Joined: Tue May 31, 2011 5:28 pm
Location: London
Team(s) Supported: England, Kent, Malaysia, Manchester United

Re: The Ashes 5th Test. The Oval. August 20-24.

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Wed Aug 19, 2015 11:33 pm

Reports are suggesting another green pitch. Didn't expect that of the Oval.
I always say that everybody's right.
User avatar
Arthur Crabtree
 
Posts: 89625
Joined: Tue May 31, 2011 12:52 pm
Location: Nottingham
Team(s) Supported: Yorkshire.

Re: The Ashes 5th Test. The Oval. August 20-24.

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Wed Aug 19, 2015 11:36 pm

Cricinfo thinks the Marshes will swap again. Bit of a dog's dinner that.
I always say that everybody's right.
User avatar
Arthur Crabtree
 
Posts: 89625
Joined: Tue May 31, 2011 12:52 pm
Location: Nottingham
Team(s) Supported: Yorkshire.

Re: The Ashes 5th Test. The Oval. August 20-24.

Postby captaincolly » Wed Aug 19, 2015 11:39 pm

Arthur Crabtree wrote:Cricinfo thinks the Marshes will swap again. Bit of a dog's dinner that.

A shambles!
captaincolly
 
Posts: 39777
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 3:47 pm
Team(s) Supported: Durham CCC, England

Re: The Ashes 5th Test. The Oval. August 20-24.

Postby rich1uk » Thu Aug 20, 2015 12:05 am

would be surprised if its a brother swap , I doubt voges will play another test after this series whereas shaun marsh will at least be in the frame with rogers and Clarke going

after dropping smith and Clarke down a spot for the last test dropping shaun marsh would see them move back up again , i'm not as big a worrier about scorecard numbers for batsmen as some but it does seem a lot of fiddling around

its all got a bit reminiscent of a couple of years ago when the aussies didn't seem to have a clue what their best team is and chopped and changed all the time
"I know words, i have the best words" - Donald J Trump

2012 SA vs SL ODIs prediction guru 2012 Movie Cup
2012 CB series guru
2012 Music Cup
2012 WI vs Oz Tests prediction guru
rich1uk
 
Posts: 22062
Joined: Mon Jan 24, 2011 1:03 pm

Re: The Ashes 5th Test. The Oval. August 20-24.

Postby yuppie » Thu Aug 20, 2015 12:18 am

I don't think there is any reason to play Voges in this test. I'm no fan of S Marsh, but arguably he can play test cricket for the next 5 years........

As has been pointed out by other posters there is little room for Aus to blood some new players, but they may as well look to the future as best they can in this dead rubber. Arguably Clarke should be dropped on form but he wont be so Voges needs to go. And if a bowler is injured then Cummings needs to come in.

So for me

Rodgers
Warner
S Marsh
Smith
Clarke
Marsh
Neville
MJ
Starc
Cumings
Lyon

Wont be surprised if the bottom 5 score more than the top 6 again...
2009 New Zealand Vs India Tests Prediction Guru
Prem final standings prediction guru
2010 AFL Footy Tipping Champion
User avatar
yuppie
 
Posts: 15613
Joined: Sun Sep 21, 2008 8:07 pm
Location: Lund, Sweden
Team(s) Supported: Australia, Nottingham Forest, Carlton.

Re: The Ashes 5th Test. The Oval. August 20-24.

Postby Slipstream » Thu Aug 20, 2015 2:06 am

Broad has the chance of Man of the Series. Give him a rest? I don't think so. He has only bowled 123.0 overs.
User avatar
Slipstream
 
Posts: 1755
Joined: Fri Jan 16, 2009 7:36 pm

PreviousNext

Return to Live Cricket Matches

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 21 guests