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Re: Aus v Eng ODI series

Postby DiligentDefence » Sat Sep 05, 2015 5:22 pm

SaintPowelly wrote:That is 100% out, he has turned into the ball and used his opposite hand to catch it

Good decision.

I have to disagree. Looking in real time, I think it is an appalling decision.
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Re: Aus v Eng ODI series

Postby SaintPowelly » Sat Sep 05, 2015 5:23 pm

ianp1970 wrote:Is that really out!


He hasn't moved out of the way, or he would of dived away from the stumps, he has thrown his arm to catch it.
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Re: Aus v Eng ODI series

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Sat Sep 05, 2015 5:28 pm

Looked out to me.
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Re: Aus v Eng ODI series

Postby yorker_129-7 » Sat Sep 05, 2015 5:29 pm

Looks to me like he put his arm up to defend himself and instinctively followed it. Reminds me of the Paul Collingwood thing with a run out against New Zealand several years ago, might be out by the letter of the law but I think there's a lot of doubt involved. Colly was castigated for that decision.
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Re: Aus v Eng ODI series

Postby m@tt » Sat Sep 05, 2015 5:30 pm

If he's trying to "catch" it, he's attempted the catch in an odd way.

Looks to me that his main movement is to turn and dive back into his crease, whilst his left arm has naturally moved around as he twisted but also up, probably defensively.

The slow motion replays aren't very helpful - doesn't reflect the quick reaction.

I'd say there is definitely enough doubt regarding evasive action to leave that as a "not out" decision. But as an England fan I'm biased.
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Re: Aus v Eng ODI series

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Sat Sep 05, 2015 5:33 pm

Hideous collapse, and a freakish dismissal. A surprise it wasn't Watson who copped it. England have batting left and aren't out of it yet....
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Re: Aus v Eng ODI series

Postby ianp1970 » Sat Sep 05, 2015 5:34 pm

If that was shown on the big screen the way we have been shown it on TV, then Smith should have withdrawn the appeal.

Too much doubt.

Also, was the "soft" decision out or not out? I missed that bit.
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Re: Aus v Eng ODI series

Postby hopeforthebest » Sat Sep 05, 2015 5:35 pm

I don't believe it was a deliberate act simply instinctive and therefore not out. However, how many fantasy league points is this dismissal worth and who gets them.
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Re: Aus v Eng ODI series

Postby ianp1970 » Sat Sep 05, 2015 5:37 pm

hopeforthebest wrote:I don't believe it was a deliberate act simply instinctive and therefore not out. However, how many fantasy league points is this dismissal worth and who gets them.


As I have him, it will probably be minus 10 for Stokes :d'oh:
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Re: Aus v Eng ODI series

Postby DiligentDefence » Sat Sep 05, 2015 5:38 pm

hopeforthebest wrote:I don't believe it was a deliberate act simply instinctive and therefore not out. However, how many fantasy league points is this dismissal worth and who gets them.

None as obstructing the field isn't credited to anyone on the fielding side.
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Re: Aus v Eng ODI series

Postby SaintPowelly » Sat Sep 05, 2015 5:39 pm

I think giving him not out would of set an awful precedent, that and the fact that ball wasn't in immediate danger of hitting him, makes it a right decision in my book.
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Re: Aus v Eng ODI series

Postby dan08 » Sat Sep 05, 2015 5:39 pm

Out for me.
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Re: Aus v Eng ODI series

Postby hopeforthebest » Sat Sep 05, 2015 5:42 pm

SaintPowelly wrote:I think giving him not out would of set an awful precedent, that and the fact that ball wasn't in immediate danger of hitting him, makes it a right decision in my book.


When someone is hurling a hard cricket ball at you from 12 yards away instinct takes over.
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Re: Aus v Eng ODI series

Postby SaintPowelly » Sat Sep 05, 2015 5:44 pm

hopeforthebest wrote:
SaintPowelly wrote:I think giving him not out would of set an awful precedent, that and the fact that ball wasn't in immediate danger of hitting him, makes it a right decision in my book.


When someone is hurling a hard cricket ball at you from 12 yards away instinct takes over.


But Starc was within his rights to hurl it, and it was going to hit the stumps and run him out
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Re: Aus v Eng ODI series

Postby dan08 » Sat Sep 05, 2015 5:44 pm

It's like an accidental handball being given a penalty. Technically it shouldn't be given but at the end of the day it is a clear obstruction.

I can understand why an umpire would give it out or not out, just a matter of opinion really.
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