Second Test. SA v England. Cape Town, Jan 2-6

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Re: Seond Test, SA v England. Cape Town, Jan 2-6

Postby backfootpunch » Sat Jan 02, 2016 6:58 pm

greyblazer wrote:That Lord's track was not a flat one. Even this one is not a flat track either.

Neither was the one at the waca

Had enormous cracks in it
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Re: Seond Test, SA v England. Cape Town, Jan 2-6

Postby Dr Cricket » Sat Jan 02, 2016 7:01 pm

Flat might be the wrong word, but he obviously likes batting when the pitch has pace and bounce.

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Re: Seond Test, SA v England. Cape Town, Jan 2-6

Postby backfootpunch » Sat Jan 02, 2016 7:02 pm

greyblazer wrote:With Stokes, you will always see him fail in 4-5 innings. However, he has it in him to change the course of the game in a short space of time. You want such players in your side. Players like him should not be looked through just averages.

I would imagine consistency will come further down the line
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Re: Seond Test, SA v England. Cape Town, Jan 2-6

Postby backfootpunch » Sat Jan 02, 2016 7:07 pm

bhaveshgor wrote:Flat might be the wrong word, but he obviously likes batting when the pitch has pace and bounce.

All batsmen like the ball coming on to the bat

He's going to play 75% of his career in england, Australia, New Zealand and south africa so that isn't a problem

Hopefully given time he will learn to adapt his game to Asian conditions
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Re: Seond Test, SA v England. Cape Town, Jan 2-6

Postby Dr Cricket » Sat Jan 02, 2016 7:20 pm

backfootpunch wrote:
bhaveshgor wrote:Flat might be the wrong word, but he obviously likes batting when the pitch has pace and bounce.

All batsmen like the ball coming on to the bat

He's going to play 75% of his career in england, Australia, New Zealand and south africa so that isn't a problem

Hopefully given time he will learn to adapt his game to Asian conditions


England/nz is not quick or bouncy.
so really only 10-25% of the time.
with his hard hand not sure he will have great time batting in england either.
not attacking Stoke here, do actually like him.

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Re: Seond Test, SA v England. Cape Town, Jan 2-6

Postby Dr Cricket » Sat Jan 02, 2016 7:24 pm

Anyway stokes might prove me wrong by being consistent with the bat this year.

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Re: Seond Test, SA v England. Cape Town, Jan 2-6

Postby budgetmeansbudget » Sat Jan 02, 2016 8:15 pm

Just watched those two Rabada wickets of successive balls, my word they were close to no balls. The second one I would suggest he was lucky to get away with. The SA cameraman cleverly froze the film at the point that 1mm of foot behind the line!
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Re: Seond Test, SA v England. Cape Town, Jan 2-6

Postby The Professor » Sat Jan 02, 2016 9:00 pm

He won't grab the headlines like Stokes or Hales but I was tremendously impressed with Bairstow today.

I can't imagine two more contrasting innings than the one that he played today compared to the one in the First Test. He was happy to play second fiddle to Stokes and act as his foil where a last time out he had to force the issue himself. A player who can mould himself around what the team need at that one time is a key one - and that goes beyond any statistics that anyone can churn out. If he tightens up his wicket keeping Jos might be in a spot of bother.

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Re: Seond Test, SA v England. Cape Town, Jan 2-6

Postby Making_Splinters » Sat Jan 02, 2016 10:31 pm

Don't see how you can say Compton was unlucky, it was a daft shot to play on the stroke of tea when the ball could have been easily left. Compton clearly let the criticism about his strike rate from the first test get to him, he played several rash shots throughout his innings in complete contrast to the control he looked to have in the first Test.
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Re: Seond Test, SA v England. Cape Town, Jan 2-6

Postby The Professor » Sat Jan 02, 2016 10:45 pm

Shot was firmly hit was unlucky to have found a fielder.

I agree he is afraid of singles at the moment though. It is either block or boundary at the moment.
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Re: Seond Test, SA v England. Cape Town, Jan 2-6

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Sat Jan 02, 2016 10:54 pm

Making_Splinters wrote:Don't see how you can say Compton was unlucky, it was a daft shot to play on the stroke of tea when the ball could have been easily left. Compton clearly let the criticism about his strike rate from the first test get to him, he played several rash shots throughout his innings in complete contrast to the control he looked to have in the first Test.


That's true. But there has been some promise on show, admittedly against a weakened attack. If he calibrates his game a little, he looks like he could belong. He is still inexperienced at this level.
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Re: Seond Test, SA v England. Cape Town, Jan 2-6

Postby alfie » Sun Jan 03, 2016 9:35 am

Ended up an excellent day for England. Some rather careless batting threatened to squander the advantage of winning the toss and getting a good start , but Stokes and Bairstow did a fine job of carving up some tired SA bowling late in the evening. That four man attack always looked vulnerable.

Judging from the first over this morning , more of the same to come. Stokes doesn't half give it a whack !
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Re: Seond Test, SA v England. Cape Town, Jan 2-6

Postby Gingerfinch » Sun Jan 03, 2016 9:36 am

A nice cover drive from Stokes in the first over.
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Re: Seond Test, SA v England. Cape Town, Jan 2-6

Postby alfie » Sun Jan 03, 2016 9:40 am

The tactic of bowling full outside off stump to Stokes seems a little ill advised :)

After four cover driven boundaries in seven balls they might have noticed...

Short now but more runs . 74 to 97 in two overs :shock:
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Re: Seond Test, SA v England. Cape Town, Jan 2-6

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Sun Jan 03, 2016 9:44 am

Morning/evening chaps.

Superb pull from Jonny Bairstow.
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