Australia tour of New Zealand - Feb 2016

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Re: Australia tour of New Zealand - Feb 2016

Postby GarlicJam » Tue Feb 23, 2016 12:49 am

Toby F wrote:
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Toby F wrote:You've obviously seen twice as much dissent as I have. Sounds odd just going by cricinfo, but dissent should not be tolerated under any circumstances.

**should I answer with "No, I haven't?**

Not sure I get your point, but mine was that I am unsure if Smith was showing dissent - maybe he was - but Hazelwood sure looked to be. As well as swearing with it.

A captain questioning an umpire isn't necesarily dissent.


I was actually commenting on Arthur's original (now fixed) double quote, but you got one in before I finished. I should have linked them I guess. Since I only have cricinfo I was relying on Arthur's observation of dissent.

Ah, makes a lot of sense now. The only thing I could think of was a possible age difference.
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Re: Australia tour of New Zealand - Feb 2016

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Tue Feb 23, 2016 12:53 am

I didn't edit my posts back there.

Not sure the umpire is going to run through ball tracking if he sees a possibility that there has been contact from the bat. That doubt should be enough for it to stay onfield.
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Re: Australia tour of New Zealand - Feb 2016

Postby Toby F » Tue Feb 23, 2016 12:58 am

Arthur Crabtree wrote:I didn't edit my posts back there.

Not sure the umpire is going to run through ball tracking if he sees a possibility that there has been contact from the bat. That doubt should be enough for it to stay onfield.


I saw your quote twice but it must have been a temporary system glitch. I have seen nothing that suggests the on field decision should have been overturned, since doubt goes with the umpire. Certainly doesn't come under the heading of howler.
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Re: Australia tour of New Zealand - Feb 2016

Postby GarlicJam » Tue Feb 23, 2016 1:03 am

No, you did have a double post. I was going to double-quote you.



At the (strong) risk of harping on about this - sure, there is the possibility that he hit it. But this is the VERY time when Thirdie should be using every means possible to be as certain as possible about what happened.

That didn't happen. He says "He didn't hit it, he didn't hit it, he didn't hit it - oh, he may have hit it, not out".
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Re: Australia tour of New Zealand - Feb 2016

Postby GarlicJam » Tue Feb 23, 2016 1:05 am

Toby F wrote:
Arthur Crabtree wrote:I didn't edit my posts back there.

Not sure the umpire is going to run through ball tracking if he sees a possibility that there has been contact from the bat. That doubt should be enough for it to stay onfield.


I saw your quote twice but it must have been a temporary system glitch. I have seen nothing that suggests the on field decision should have been overturned, since doubt goes with the umpire. Certainly doesn't come under the heading of howler.

No, it doesn't. My only beef is with the process. Always with the process.

Following RTS like I wanted may well have ended with the same result - or even more certainty that he hit it - but the process should be followed until there is certainty, or the end of process has been reached.
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Re: Australia tour of New Zealand - Feb 2016

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Tue Feb 23, 2016 1:06 am

I see what you mean. Yes, I posted the same message twice so changed the second one as for some reason the site won't let me delete posts. Apologies.
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Re: Australia tour of New Zealand - Feb 2016

Postby GarlicJam » Tue Feb 23, 2016 1:06 am

Anyway, hopefully Boof has had words with the Aus players about keeping their collective cool. Because they need to.
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Re: Australia tour of New Zealand - Feb 2016

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Tue Feb 23, 2016 1:09 am

I'd been thinking that DRS was working ok in this match, but that seemed to prove that controversy is inevitable.
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Re: Australia tour of New Zealand - Feb 2016

Postby Toby F » Tue Feb 23, 2016 1:13 am

GarlicJam wrote:
Toby F wrote:
Arthur Crabtree wrote:I didn't edit my posts back there.

Not sure the umpire is going to run through ball tracking if he sees a possibility that there has been contact from the bat. That doubt should be enough for it to stay onfield.


I saw your quote twice but it must have been a temporary system glitch. I have seen nothing that suggests the on field decision should have been overturned, since doubt goes with the umpire. Certainly doesn't come under the heading of howler.

No, it doesn't. My only beef is with the process. Always with the process.

Following RTS like I wanted may well have ended with the same result - or even more certainty that he hit it - but the process should be followed until there is certainty, or the end of process has been reached.


It is hard to argue with that. I don't have video so I haven't seen the full thing. I agree the full process should be followed for consistency if nothing else.

There should also be a consistent policy for when the stump mikes are turned up or down. Always on would be my idea, a few f-bombs on TV, with associated fines, might make few people more careful about what they said. There will always be some understandable frustration though, even if it is with personal performance. "Golly I should have left that one alone" says the batsmen out on 99.
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Re: Australia tour of New Zealand - Feb 2016

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Tue Feb 23, 2016 1:25 am

Hundred partnership. Plenty of incident.

Australia still seem well on top, with a new ball on the way. A lead of only 71, and chances being created. Runs coming slowly. I wonder if the reaction to the drs was because they are more frustrated than I think they should be.
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Re: Australia tour of New Zealand - Feb 2016

Postby Alviro Patterson » Tue Feb 23, 2016 1:30 am

Shame Richard Illingworth didn't call a no ball for the Corey Anderson wicket
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Re: Australia tour of New Zealand - Feb 2016

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Tue Feb 23, 2016 1:30 am

There's the wicket. Anderson chopped a few before lunch which made me wonder if the bounce was getting a bit dodgy.
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Re: Australia tour of New Zealand - Feb 2016

Postby Alviro Patterson » Tue Feb 23, 2016 1:38 am

Craig Cumming does a top quality segment. I never knew the "Yorker" was named after the County Champions, a terminology used by the opposition to bowl at the feet of Yorkshire batsmen.
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Re: Australia tour of New Zealand - Feb 2016

Postby GarlicJam » Tue Feb 23, 2016 1:40 am

Go, the Anglo-Tassie-NSWelshman!
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Re: Australia tour of New Zealand - Feb 2016

Postby Alviro Patterson » Tue Feb 23, 2016 1:41 am

Nooooooo Kane :(
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