First Test: England v South Africa, Lord's, July 6-10.

[Arthur Crabtree]

Wood goes. Good job Broad stuck for a bit.

[rich1uk]

we didn't want to score too many or bat for too long as it might have meant having to enforce the follow-on to win the game

[Aidan11]

Broad ain't hanging around.

[Arthur Crabtree]

England need more lower order batting.

[rich1uk]

Broad's wasted batting at #9

[sussexpob]

he might have, alternatively he might have thought bowling at 80-82mph was what got him into the side and that he didn't need to add 5mph+ onto his bowling and got clattered all over the park by the better standard of player and playing on better pitches as he didn't have the basic pace to fall back on

Glenn McGrath was terrible, wasnt he

[mikesiva]

Saffer pacers redeemed themselves. Rabada morkel and Philander with three wickets each.

[rich1uk]

he might have, alternatively he might have thought bowling at 80-82mph was what got him into the side and that he didn't need to add 5mph+ onto his bowling and got clattered all over the park by the better standard of player and playing on better pitches as he didn't have the basic pace to fall back on

Glenn McGrath was terrible, wasnt he

dont think he bowled at 80mph

[Aidan11]

Jimmy on strike.

Will he go for the single?

[Aidan11]

Running these twos will wear them out when bowling.

[Aidan11]

We've got plenty of runs just give it the big heave over the boundary.

[sussexpob]

he might have, alternatively he might have thought bowling at 80-82mph was what got him into the side and that he didn't need to add 5mph+ onto his bowling and got clattered all over the park by the better standard of player and playing on better pitches as he didn't have the basic pace to fall back on

Glenn McGrath was terrible, wasnt he

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/c ... ae6116a452

Says McGrath's stock ball was 131km/h, which is I believe 80-81 mph.

I remember Curtley Ambrose dropping to low 80s in the late 90s, lost all pace, averaged under 20 per wicket for the last 3 years of his career.

[rich1uk]

my last comment on the woakes thing before it gets too serious

all i was saying is we cant say with any certainty whether woakes would have developed into the player he is today from within the england setup as he has being outside it for the early part of his career

look what being in the england setup as a young bowler did to FInn

[Aidan11]

50 for Broad.

[dan08]

Broad's batting is finally back!