Who's Sorry Now: Down by the Riverside

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Re: Who's Sorry Now: Down by the Riverside

Postby captaincolly » Mon Sep 25, 2017 11:53 am

Aidan11 wrote:Kent were able to offer him what he wanted and Durham wouldn't budge on the one year offer.

He's been a good servant. Good luck to him.

On second thoughts though - would Kent give him 2 years plus a guaranteed coaching role at the end of it? Presumably they must have but it seems strange then why they would be prepared to take that risk whereas Durham were not.
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Re: Who's Sorry Now: Down by the Riverside

Postby captaincolly » Mon Sep 25, 2017 11:55 am

st_brendy wrote:I read this morning that he was off to Lancs? (They won't have Jarvis next season, I think?)

I hadn't heard of that but Lancs would probably be a more tempting move for him. Again though would they offer two years plus the coaching role? The answer must be yes but seems a big commitment / guarantee for any club.
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Re: Who's Sorry Now: Down by the Riverside

Postby Aidan11 » Mon Sep 25, 2017 1:27 pm

captaincolly wrote:
Aidan11 wrote:Kent were able to offer him what he wanted and Durham wouldn't budge on the one year offer.

He's been a good servant. Good luck to him.

On second thoughts though - would Kent give him 2 years plus a guaranteed coaching role at the end of it? Presumably they must have but it seems strange then why they would be prepared to take that risk whereas Durham were not.



It was a good source at the club who said he was going to Kent. They've offered him exactly what he wanted. This guy is usually spot on with what he says but not always. Seemed confident though.
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Re: Who's Sorry Now: Down by the Riverside

Postby captaincolly » Mon Sep 25, 2017 1:40 pm

Aidan11 wrote:
captaincolly wrote:
Aidan11 wrote:Kent were able to offer him what he wanted and Durham wouldn't budge on the one year offer.

He's been a good servant. Good luck to him.

On second thoughts though - would Kent give him 2 years plus a guaranteed coaching role at the end of it? Presumably they must have but it seems strange then why they would be prepared to take that risk whereas Durham were not.



It was a good source at the club who said he was going to Kent. They've offered him exactly what he wanted. This guy is usually spot on with what he says but not always. Seemed confident though.

I'm sure he will be right - it must be a case of him wanting to match an existing offer. In that case his 'demands' can't have been too unreasonable because at least one other club thought they were fair terms.
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Re: Who's Sorry Now: Down by the Riverside

Postby westoelad » Mon Sep 25, 2017 1:53 pm

It's water under the bridge now. He could have been an expensive liability if he had a 2 year unconditional contract and presumably Kent, if it's true, have a bowling coach vacancy.
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Re: Who's Sorry Now: Down by the Riverside

Postby captaincolly » Mon Sep 25, 2017 1:59 pm

westoelad wrote:It's water under the bridge now. He could have been an expensive liability if he had a 2 year unconditional contract and presumably Kent, if it's true, have a bowling coach vacancy.

Yeah, can see why Durham decided they couldn't match the offer. Just hope they can use the funds freed up by the various departures to make some good signings - although it might not be easy to persuade players of the right calibre to join given we are looking very vulnerable right now.
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Re: Who's Sorry Now: Down by the Riverside

Postby wearside willow » Mon Sep 25, 2017 4:25 pm

So the departures this season are which have been confirmed by the club
1.Coughlin
2.Onions
3.Hickey
Not confirmed by the club but appear to have gone
4.Arshad
5.Main
And also looks very likely the following is gone
6.Jennings
So with the 3 lads signing new one year deals I believe that only leaves Colly then Harding and Coughlin jnr who are on a development contract who are technically out of contract.

Does that appear about right or have I missed anyone
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Re: Who's Sorry Now: Down by the Riverside

Postby westoelad » Mon Sep 25, 2017 4:46 pm

wearside willow wrote:So the departures this season are which have been confirmed by the club
1.Coughlin
2.Onions
3.Hickey
Not confirmed by the club but appear to have gone
4.Arshad
5.Main
And also looks very likely the following is gone
6.Jennings
So with the 3 lads signing new one year deals I believe that only leaves Colly then Harding and Coughlin jnr who are on a development contract who are technically out of contract.

Does that appear about right or have I missed anyone

Aren't development contracts for 2 years?
Harte is now out of contract and I certainly think Harding is now out of favour if not out of contract. What is alarming is we now have only 12 full time professionals plus Josh Coughlin.
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Re: Who's Sorry Now: Down by the Riverside

Postby captaincolly » Mon Sep 25, 2017 4:47 pm

wearside willow wrote:So the departures this season are which have been confirmed by the club
1.Coughlin
2.Onions
3.Hickey
Not confirmed by the club but appear to have gone
4.Arshad
5.Main
And also looks very likely the following is gone
6.Jennings
So with the 3 lads signing new one year deals I believe that only leaves Colly then Harding and Coughlin jnr who are on a development contract who are technically out of contract.

Does that appear about right or have I missed anyone

It's hard to keep track but I think that's right! No idea if it's true or not but someone who is usually correct told be Harding was going too - I neglected to ask if he was just guessing or had been told something.
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Re: Who's Sorry Now: Down by the Riverside

Postby wearside willow » Mon Sep 25, 2017 5:30 pm

Development contracts can only be given for a maximum of 6 months although you can stay on one for more than one season.
I forgot about harte the lad has not really been given an opportunity without actually doing anything wrong for the 2nds.
It would appear to me that even with the salary restrictions imposed on Durham they must have a fair bit of scope to sign players and still be comfortable inside the budget.
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Re: Who's Sorry Now: Down by the Riverside

Postby captaincolly » Mon Sep 25, 2017 5:44 pm

wearside willow wrote:Development contracts can only be given for a maximum of 6 months although you can stay on one for more than one season.
I forgot about harte the lad has not really been given an opportunity without actually doing anything wrong for the 2nds.
It would appear to me that even with the salary restrictions imposed on Durham they must have a fair bit of scope to sign and still be comfortable inside the budget.

I think so, they must be well under the cap. Trouble might be in finding players who are both good enough and willing to sign - the best ones who might be on the move are likely to have better options. It's why I'm still in two minds over Onions - can they be confident of using the money to bring in the right replacement?
Wood might be the next one to give the club a tricky choice to make - he'll be very lucky if his central contract is renewed.
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Re: Who's Sorry Now: Down by the Riverside

Postby captaincolly » Mon Sep 25, 2017 6:13 pm

st_brendy wrote:I read this morning that he was off to Lancs? (They won't have Jarvis next season, I think?)

Tim Wellock also reckons he'll join Lancs.
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Re: Who's Sorry Now: Down by the Riverside

Postby wearside willow » Mon Sep 25, 2017 7:36 pm

i think there are a few counties who could give Onions a 2 year deal and if he breaks down and say does not play much in the 2nd year have the economic strength to shrug it off. There are also a few counties who probably couldn't take that risk and Durham are probably in that 2nd camp.
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Re: Who's Sorry Now: Down by the Riverside

Postby Durhamfootman » Mon Sep 25, 2017 7:50 pm

Aidan11 wrote:He's been a good servant. Good luck to him.

:thumb

but we made the right decision
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Re: Who's Sorry Now: Down by the Riverside

Postby captaincolly » Mon Sep 25, 2017 7:59 pm

Durhamfootman wrote:
Aidan11 wrote:He's been a good servant. Good luck to him.

:thumb

but we made the right decision

Hope so! Provided we bring in a proven strike bowler to replace him - thing that concerns me is we haven't made any major domestic signings since Blackwell. Just have to wonder if the people negotiating these deals are up to it - lost Coggers, Bunny and probably Jennings and kept Poynter, Pringle and Burnham!
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