Second Ashes Test, Lord's, 14-18 August.

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Re: Second Ashes Test, Lord's, 14-18 August.

Postby alfie » Sat Aug 17, 2019 3:12 pm

Reckon that spell from Archer showcased the best way to use him. He has pace and stamina ...but right now probably less effective with the new ball as his length and general movement in to the right hander are better suited to the bouncier tracks (will be interesting to see him in Australia next tour !).
More sense to use Woakes at the start and save Archer for the follow up spell.

Mind you he doesn't seem to have been too fatigued by all the donkey work :)
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Re: Second Ashes Test, Lord's, 14-18 August.

Postby sussexpob » Sat Aug 17, 2019 3:14 pm

Having watched the replay, I'm surprised he still has a head
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Re: Second Ashes Test, Lord's, 14-18 August.

Postby mikesiva » Sat Aug 17, 2019 3:17 pm

yuppie wrote:Thats what i thought, i could not hear booing. But there is some messages that there was.

I heard a few boos. Very few. A small minority. But the vast majority applauded.
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Re: Second Ashes Test, Lord's, 14-18 August.

Postby alfie » Sat Aug 17, 2019 3:21 pm

Cummins and Siddle resisting the new ball well...

Well they were :)

Fine away movement from Woakes snares Siddle :clap

And...here comes Smith again !

Quick recovery .
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Re: Second Ashes Test, Lord's, 14-18 August.

Postby alfie » Sat Aug 17, 2019 3:25 pm

...and immediately going after Woakes ! Dramatic re-entry.

I think there is method in that. He wants to get Woakes off - or at least off his game. Knows he is the danger man with this new ball.
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Re: Second Ashes Test, Lord's, 14-18 August.

Postby sussexpob » Sat Aug 17, 2019 3:28 pm

I'd get archer back on and instruct him everything goes to the body. Let's see if Smith fancies it
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Re: Second Ashes Test, Lord's, 14-18 August.

Postby alfie » Sat Aug 17, 2019 3:35 pm

sussexpob wrote:I'd get archer back on and instruct him everything goes to the body. Let's see if Smith fancies it



No need . Woakes did the job :clap

Glad Root held his nerve.
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Re: Second Ashes Test, Lord's, 14-18 August.

Postby alfie » Sat Aug 17, 2019 3:41 pm

In any case Smith has seen his team to within 24 runs of England - and two men left. Game remains well open still though you'd fancy the draw from here as the pitch isn't playing too many tricks yet.

Warne being unduly harsh on Roy then...he was at full stretch and just got a hand on it. Saved a four I reckon...
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Re: Second Ashes Test, Lord's, 14-18 August.

Postby mikesiva » Sat Aug 17, 2019 3:51 pm

alfie wrote:
sussexpob wrote:I'd get archer back on and instruct him everything goes to the body. Let's see if Smith fancies it



No need . Woakes did the job :clap

Glad Root held his nerve.

Archer arguably had an assist with that wicket.

I wonder if Smith will be the same batsman in the second innings.
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Re: Second Ashes Test, Lord's, 14-18 August.

Postby alfie » Sat Aug 17, 2019 3:56 pm

mikesiva wrote:
alfie wrote:
sussexpob wrote:I'd get archer back on and instruct him everything goes to the body. Let's see if Smith fancies it



No need . Woakes did the job :clap

Glad Root held his nerve.

Archer arguably had an assist with that wicket.

I wonder if Smith will be the same batsman in the second innings.



Oh indeed. Not surprised he was a bit less assured after that knock on the head !

But my primary point there is that Root really needs to use Woakes at the optimum time : ie when the ball is new. He has rather failed to do so too often in both these Tests . Not sure why ?
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Re: Second Ashes Test, Lord's, 14-18 August.

Postby sussexpob » Sat Aug 17, 2019 3:58 pm

Have England found a chink in Smith? Is it going to be fast and short from archer the moment he arrives now?
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Re: Second Ashes Test, Lord's, 14-18 August.

Postby alfie » Sat Aug 17, 2019 4:03 pm

The second innings will indeed be interesting . I imagine Archer will be unleashed with the short stuff pretty early when Smith comes in...and how he handles it may be significant for the rest of the series.

Leach on now...

And an lbw ? Pending review...that's out ! Just a "hopeful" review from Lyon ...'cos they had one.

Fair reward for some decent bowling from Leach today.
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Re: Second Ashes Test, Lord's, 14-18 August.

Postby sussexpob » Sat Aug 17, 2019 4:06 pm

I'll review the highlights later, but it sounds like a hell of a vicious spell from archer. Touching 97mph. Didn't think he was capable of that speed, it's only in recent times he's been upgraded to fast rather than fast medium..when he first arrived at Sussex he wasn't express pace
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Re: Second Ashes Test, Lord's, 14-18 August.

Postby alfie » Sat Aug 17, 2019 4:14 pm

sussexpob wrote:I'll review the highlights later, but it sounds like a hell of a vicious spell from archer. Touching 97mph. Didn't think he was capable of that speed, it's only in recent times he's been upgraded to fast rather than fast medium..when he first arrived at Sussex he wasn't express pace



He was really cranking it up ! Seemed to be a lot faster than yesterday : slightly surprising after all the work he'd done. Whether he can back that up second innings we will have to wait and see ...but whatever the speed gun says that was seriously consistent heat today.


Broad finishes the job...narrow lead to England. Nothing really..but better than being fifty runs behind as many were fearing...

Whatever happens from here , this series still looks very much Smith v England (I know the Aussie bowling is good , yes of course. But you know what I mean)
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Re: Second Ashes Test, Lord's, 14-18 August.

Postby sussexpob » Sat Aug 17, 2019 4:15 pm

Finely poised test match this. Shame the time is running out for a result
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