The Ashes; First Test, Cardiff, July 8-12

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Re: The Ashes; First Test, Cardiff, July 8-12

Postby sussexpob » Thu Jul 09, 2015 11:28 am

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yorker_129-7 wrote:And that's why batsmen don't walk.


I think there is a difference between middling it, being caught, and standing your ground and a ball scrapping the floor on a very marginal catch.


I mean, had it been Broad yesterday who chipped to the out field and not Buttler, he probably would have reviewed it
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Re: The Ashes; First Test, Cardiff, July 8-12

Postby GarlicJam » Thu Jul 09, 2015 11:28 am

Aidan11 wrote:Why was Starc allowed to bowl straight away when he was off the field for a while yesterday.

How long was he off for? Don't they have something like half an hour (or less) until that delay comes into play?

If not, umpire error.
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Re: The Ashes; First Test, Cardiff, July 8-12

Postby Aidan11 » Thu Jul 09, 2015 11:29 am

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Aidan11 wrote:Why was Starc allowed to bowl straight away when he was off the field for a while yesterday.

How long was he off for? Don't they have something like half an hour (or less) until that delay comes into play?

If not, umpire error.


Can't remember but I'm sure it was more than half an hour.
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Re: The Ashes; First Test, Cardiff, July 8-12

Postby sussexpob » Thu Jul 09, 2015 11:30 am

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Aidan11 wrote:Why was Starc allowed to bowl straight away when he was off the field for a while yesterday.

How long was he off for? Don't they have something like half an hour (or less) until that delay comes into play?

If not, umpire error.


No. Any time is not carried over to the new days play, that's the rules.
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Re: The Ashes; First Test, Cardiff, July 8-12

Postby hopeforthebest » Thu Jul 09, 2015 11:31 am

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Aidan11 wrote:Why was Starc allowed to bowl straight away when he was off the field for a while yesterday.

How long was he off for? Don't they have something like half an hour (or less) until that delay comes into play?

If not, umpire error.


I think where bowlers are concerned each day is a new beginning and time off the field the previous day doesn't count.
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Re: The Ashes; First Test, Cardiff, July 8-12

Postby GarlicJam » Thu Jul 09, 2015 11:34 am

Obviously that catch was not a catch, but my question is about Broad's right to merely question the umpire's decision - which resulted in an umpire review - without using the review option.

Otherwise, isn't he just disputing the umpire's decision? Which is against the Spirit of the Game.
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Re: The Ashes; First Test, Cardiff, July 8-12

Postby sussexpob » Thu Jul 09, 2015 11:35 am

Hundred up for Mitch.... well played son :clap
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Re: The Ashes; First Test, Cardiff, July 8-12

Postby Aidan11 » Thu Jul 09, 2015 11:36 am

'Tache's Ton.

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Re: The Ashes; First Test, Cardiff, July 8-12

Postby yorker_129-7 » Thu Jul 09, 2015 11:36 am

Well played Mitch! Now keep at it, there's a 150 out there for you if you keep going.
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Re: The Ashes; First Test, Cardiff, July 8-12

Postby Aidan11 » Thu Jul 09, 2015 11:37 am

Strange shot but it brings up Moeen's 50.

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Re: The Ashes; First Test, Cardiff, July 8-12

Postby swannyforengland » Thu Jul 09, 2015 11:38 am

GarlicJam wrote:Obviously that catch was not a catch, but my question is about Broad's right to merely question the umpire's decision - which resulted in an umpire review - without using the review option.

Otherwise, isn't he just disputing the umpire's decision? Which is against the Spirit of the Game.


I think the question is whether Broad did dispute it exactly. The TV pictures didn't show anything of Broad between Erasmus raising his finger and the review starting. Perhaps the square leg umpire advised Erasmus to go upstairs.
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Re: The Ashes; First Test, Cardiff, July 8-12

Postby swannyforengland » Thu Jul 09, 2015 11:40 am

I was on Voges' side anyway, he's in my fantasy team...
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Re: The Ashes; First Test, Cardiff, July 8-12

Postby Aidan11 » Thu Jul 09, 2015 11:42 am

50 partnership.

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Re: The Ashes; First Test, Cardiff, July 8-12

Postby captaincolly » Thu Jul 09, 2015 11:43 am

yorker_129-7 wrote:Well played Mitch! Now keep at it, there's a 150 out there for you if you keep going.

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Re: The Ashes; First Test, Cardiff, July 8-12

Postby sussexpob » Thu Jul 09, 2015 11:45 am

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GarlicJam wrote:Obviously that catch was not a catch, but my question is about Broad's right to merely question the umpire's decision - which resulted in an umpire review - without using the review option.

Otherwise, isn't he just disputing the umpire's decision? Which is against the Spirit of the Game.


I think the question is whether Broad did dispute it exactly. The TV pictures didn't show anything of Broad between Erasmus raising his finger and the review starting. Perhaps the square leg umpire advised Erasmus to go upstairs.



I think its good umpiring. His gut feeling is he caught it, and so he gives it out. Broad is entitled (as he would have been right) to question if the ball had carried to the fielder, and at that point the umpire goes to tv replays.

the umpire at that point is saying, unless tv is conclusive, you are a goner , based on his initial view and judgement, but I am subject to being corrected by conclusive evidence.
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