Bangladesh V England Test Series 2016

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Re: Bangladesh V England Test Series 2016

Postby hopeforthebest » Sat Oct 29, 2016 9:56 am

Cook must have decided to let BD catch up quickly to make the contest even.
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Re: Bangladesh V England Test Series 2016

Postby alfie » Sat Oct 29, 2016 9:58 am

budgetmeansbudget wrote:Is there a way we can find a place for Rashid in the Test side outside of the sub continent? He's going to have some very good days with the ball, but when he doesn't he'll chip in with good runs. I'd like to see him as a mainstay.



Not unless he can get his bowling up to true Test Match standard - which it really isn't at the moment. I like his tail end run potential too ; but he hasn't yet shown either the control or the penetration to suggest he can be a regular selection. At the moment he is a luxury accessory at best...
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Re: Bangladesh V England Test Series 2016

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Sat Oct 29, 2016 10:00 am

Can't see Rashid making it while he bowls 1-2 four balls an over.

Maybe a possibility Mo will keep his top six spot, which would open up a bowling place (if he can play short bowling on quick pitches), but Rashid isn't going to get the confidence of his captain as a bowler.

I wonder about Rashid's county reputation for bowling out the tail, and if it applies to international level, where there (maybe) aren't so many rabbits.
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Re: Bangladesh V England Test Series 2016

Postby dan08 » Sat Oct 29, 2016 10:03 am

It's like playing with 9 men with Ballance and Finn in the team.
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Re: Bangladesh V England Test Series 2016

Postby hopeforthebest » Sat Oct 29, 2016 10:04 am

Finn's 3 overs have consumed almost all the lead England had while bowling tripe.
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Re: Bangladesh V England Test Series 2016

Postby budgetmeansbudget » Sat Oct 29, 2016 10:04 am

hopeforthebest wrote:Cook must have decided to let BD catch up quickly to make the contest even.

Deficit gone.

They're going at a similar rate to the first innings.
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Re: Bangladesh V England Test Series 2016

Postby budgetmeansbudget » Sat Oct 29, 2016 10:06 am

dan08 wrote:It's like playing with 9 men with Ballance and Finn in the team.

Correct James.
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Re: Bangladesh V England Test Series 2016

Postby alfie » Sat Oct 29, 2016 10:09 am

Lead didn't last long. Didn't think it would : these openers like to get on with it and England do not have the type of bowlers to keep a lid on it early (Well they do , in Stokes ; but they don't want to kill him with overuse)

Ansari now : after that horrible day one he has this spell to ensure he doesn't become Kerrigan #2
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Re: Bangladesh V England Test Series 2016

Postby Aidan11 » Sat Oct 29, 2016 10:16 am

Today seems to have been a good one to miss.

Would have been a lot worse without that 9th wicket stand.
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Re: Bangladesh V England Test Series 2016

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Sat Oct 29, 2016 10:17 am

budgetmeansbudget wrote:Is there a way we can find a place for Rashid in the Test side outside of the sub continent? He's going to have some very good days with the ball, but when he doesn't he'll chip in with good runs. I'd like to see him as a mainstay.


I've always touted for a 'number seven', who contributes with bat and ball, but doesn't quite get in for either, just for their all round potential. What can be dismissed as bits and pieces. But only one in the side. Mo and Stokes both at times have looked like that player, though Stokes maybe would get in just as a bat now. Having two feels to weaken the side though. Maybe Rashid could be that type. A luxury, but potentially a useful one. But currently Mo looks more useful as a 'number seven'.

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Re: Bangladesh V England Test Series 2016

Postby hopeforthebest » Sat Oct 29, 2016 10:20 am

No bowler able to contain Tamin and Imrul.
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Re: Bangladesh V England Test Series 2016

Postby dan08 » Sat Oct 29, 2016 10:23 am

Ansari's Test career going the same way as Kerrigan's.
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Re: Bangladesh V England Test Series 2016

Postby hopeforthebest » Sat Oct 29, 2016 10:24 am

Arthur Crabtree wrote:
budgetmeansbudget wrote:Is there a way we can find a place for Rashid in the Test side outside of the sub continent? He's going to have some very good days with the ball, but when he doesn't he'll chip in with good runs. I'd like to see him as a mainstay.


I've always touted for a 'number seven', who contributes with bat and ball, but doesn't quite get in for either, just for their all round potential. What can be dismissed as bits and pieces. But only one in the side. Mo and Stokes both at times have looked like that player, though Stokes maybe would get in just as a bat now. Having two feels to weaken the side though. Maybe Rashid could be that type. A luxury, but potentially a useful one. But currently Mo looks more useful as a 'number seven'.

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Where does Woakes come in then.
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Re: Bangladesh V England Test Series 2016

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Sat Oct 29, 2016 10:26 am

To be fair to Kerrigan, he wasn't bowling on a dustbowl in Bangladesh.

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Re: Bangladesh V England Test Series 2016

Postby Arthur Crabtree » Sat Oct 29, 2016 10:29 am

Woakes gets in for his bowling, I would have thought.
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